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Article #14263

Re: two "simple" questions

#14263
From: KINOSHITA Yoshiki
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1993 10:42
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In article <1993Mar16.025147.27136@kudpc.kyoto-u.ac.jp> f51323@sakura.kudpc.kyoto-u.ac.jp (inoue kouichi) writes:
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-- 
KINOSHITA Yoshiki [KINOSHITA is my family name]
Department of Computer Science, University of Edinburgh
James Clark Maxwell Building, The King's Buildings, Edinburgh EH9 3JZ, Scotland
[On leave from Electrotechnical Laboratory, 1-1-4 Umezono, Tsukuba, 305 Japan]


-- 
KINOSHITA Yoshiki [KINOSHITA is my family name]
Department of Computer Science, University of Edinburgh
James Clark Maxwell Building, The King's Buildings, Edinburgh EH9 3JZ, Scotland
[On leave from Electrotechnical Laboratory, 1-1-4 Umezono, Tsukuba, 305 Japan]
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Subject: Re: two "simple" questions
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