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Re: kt7 Menu bar in English

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From: KITAMURA-1267-Yasuichi
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1993 07:23
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From: "Nobukazu Toge"                                <TOGE@SLACVM.BITNET>
Subject: K.T. 7.1 and U.S. 7.1



I finally got both U.S. 7.1 final (from D e v e l o p 12) and K.T. 7.1
(from Apple Japan, official release) and tried them together during the
past weekend.  It looks like there are two ways to merge U.S. + K.T.
7.1 so that the finder etc menus/dialog appear (almost) all in English
yet the system handles 2-byte Japanese characters propertly.

Method 1. Install KT 7.1 and overwrite it with US 7.1 installer.
    1.1. Install KT 7.1 first using the KT installer.
    1.2. Install US 7.1 using the US installer, on top of the initial
         KT 7.1.
    1.3. Clean  up the system folder by dragging all necessary Kanji
         stuff from Kinou-Kakucho, Kontororu Paneru etc folders onto
         Exetentions, Control Panel folders, etc.
    1.4. Reboot the mac. I found that the initial script system is
         fixed to English, and "Kotoeri" is not selectable.  I think
         this is because the last US installation left the system file
         with its "itlc" resource set to use script 0 (English).
         See Inside Mac vol 6, p.14-81 for details. To set the system
         script to Japanese (so Kotoeri gets active) use ResEdit and
         change the first entry of the "itlc" resource (there's only
         one) in the system to 1.  Or, to do it more gracefully, use
         "ScriptSwitcher" control panel that can be found in CD Nov/Dec
         92:Tools & Apps:Intriguing inits/cdevs/DAs:ScriptSwitcher:.
         This works fine if you got US 7.1. from D e v e l o p as I did.

Method 2. Install US 7.1 and copy some KT stuff later by hand.
    2.1. Install U.S. 7.1, using the U.S. installer.
    2.2. Copy all relevant KT files from K.T. 7.1 distribution disks
         to the US 7.1 system folder by hand, i.e. -
            Kinou-Kakucho    ---> Extensions
            Kontororu-Paneru ---> Control Panels
            Shoki-Settei     ---> Preferences
            Huonto           ---> Fonts
            "Marukan" files  ---> System folder
    2.3. Open the K.T. system file by double clicking on it, drag and
         copy the following three items from the KT system file to the
         US system file.
            RooMa-ji (keyboard)
            Kana     (keyboard)
            Nihongo  (script)
         You can achieve the same effect by using ResEdit and directly
         copying the following resources from KT to US system file.
            KCHR, kcs#, kcs4:   id 16384 and 16385
            itl0, itl1:         id 16895
            itl2, itl4, itl5:   id 16384
            itlb:               id 1
    2.4. Look at 1.4, it's the same here.

The system I ended up with this way has Osaka as the system font.
NoMeMo Busters (1.3.4 or later) works still fine here, so I can remove
most of unpleasant "moji-bake"s in the menus and the desktop.

One good thing is that apparently Osaka 12 now has the same font height
as Chicago 12, and the Osaka 9 comes in the same size as Geneva 9.
Nonetheless, if I want to change the system font from Osaka 12 to
something else (say, Chiyoda 12), I am not sure how I do it right.
IM 6 says "itlb" in the system is the resource that specifies system
fonts etc with each script system.  When I simply ResEdit'ed it to
have Chiyoda 12 as the system font, the resultant menus didn't display
Kanji's properly.  Oh well, I never understood this FOND/NFNT types.

Anyway, I hope this result   gives one data point to other hackers. I
would appreciate if people could point out any technical misunderstanding
or errors on my part, if any.

- Nobu Toge (Nat'l Lab for High Energy Physics, Japan)
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