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Re: A suggestion for Florida posters

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From: Ken
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 14:46
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"I R A Darth Aggie" <sy_nttvr@gurcragntba.pbz> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 14 Feb 2002 16:01:50 GMT,
> Richard Morrison <chooch@casagrande.com>, in
> <3c6bd529.1883057@enews.newsguy.com> wrote:
>
> > There are problems with creating a moderated group.
> >
> > 1.  It has to be a new group, with a new name.  (You cannot change an
> > existing unmoderated group into a moderated one for a large number of
> > reasons.)  Will new posters even be able to find the new group?
>
> I don't see that as a problem. Simply spam^Wannounce the new group in
> the Usual Places.
>
> And changing a relatively small regional group from unmoderated to
> moderated isn't as thorny a problem as it would be with a Big 8 or
> alt.* group. It depends on how many servers actually carry fl.*, and
> if they're willing to change things. It may not work, but it has a
> higher likelihood of sucess.
>
> > 2.  You have to find someone who is willing to act as moderator, and
> > that person has to demonstrate that they have the technical skill and
> > software to do the job.  They also have to have the _time_ available
> > to do it.  It's a big job, and usually a thankless one.
>
> The software isn't a problem (STUMP comes to mind). But the job is
> indeed a thankless one, even if the amount of traffic would IMHO not
> be too great.
>
> > 3.  You also have to consider questions like what happens if the
> > moderator quits, becomes disabled, or loses their access.  With no
> > replacement at hand, the group dies.
>
> Deal with that in the charter. Multiple moderators who reign for a
> set period of time.
>
> > Things will eventually calm down and normal posters can resume.
> > It's frustrating, but it works.
>
> It's been 3 or more years, and I'm still waiting for "things to calm
> down". It would be entertaining to trick the whole lot of them into
> crossposting into alt.hackers, alt.hackers.malicious, and alt.2600...


    Jim it is pretty simple to do, as it WAS done in Milwaukee. You gain a
consensus on a charter, get a system admin from a LOCAL ISP to sponsor the
new charter and install it as moderated, and the clowns are gone.  A request
to the M2N gateways and they will block access to the NG again if requested
by an administrator.
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