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On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 04:30:59 GMT, "Lou P. Garrew" <howling@moon.com>
wrote:


>> >In other words, you have no evidence of treason,
>> 
>> Of course I do:
>> 
>
>(snipped rambles)
>
>In other words, 

Wow - you snip like a pro gardener.

Here, it's springtime in Paris circa 1971 again:

http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/staticpages/index.php?page=2004060123330738

John Kerry, also a member of the 5-man Steering Committee, had long
had a contentious relationship with Hubbard. After sharing an
appearance on the NBC television show, "Meet the Press," on April 18,
1971 Kerry learned that Hubbard had not been an Air Force captain as
he claimed, but only a sergeant. Later investigations showed that
despite his stories of being wounded flying in combat, Hubbard had
never been a pilot, and in fact had never been assigned to Vietnam. 

Now, according to the FBI files, Kerry made a motion to remove Hubbard
from the Steering Committee -- a motion that was voted down. Kerry
then stated that he intended to resign from the VVAW Steering
Committee for "personal reasons," but agreed to remain on the Steering
Committee until a replacement had been selected. 

VVAW national staff member Joe Urgo was up next. According to an FBI
report filed on November 24, 1971, Urgo reported that he had traveled
to Hanoi in August 1971 to work directly with North Vietnamese
leaders. Urgo brought home proposals for the VVAW to: (1) create tapes
to be sent to North Vietnam for broadcast over Radio Hanoi urging US
servicemen to stop fighting in Vietnam, and (2) send a delegation to
Hanoi to negotiate the release of American POWs, a proposal that
echoed Hubbard's report from Paris. 

The now public FBI record clearly indicates that the VVAW of November
1971 had come under communist influence and was acting directly with
the enemy to work against US military objectives in the war. Not only
was the VVAW continuing to undermine support for the war in the United
States through its false claims of war crimes and atrocities, but now
the VVAW was negotiating with America's enemies to effect the release
of POWs to enhance their credibility as an organization, and actively
encouraging soldiers in the field to refuse orders to engage the enemy
in combat. 

This appears to violate US Code 18 USC 953, which directly forbids US
citizens from negotiating with foreign powers, as well as Article III,
Section 3 of the US Constitution, which defines treason as giving aid
and comfort to the enemy in time of war. The record reflects John
Kerry's decision to tender his resignation from the VVAW Steering
Committee, but that resignation was not to be effective immediately,
nor did John Kerry stop acting as the group's public spokesperson. 

It is clear that the VVAW leaders understood the seditious nature of
their activities -- they relocated twice to avoid surveillance by
government authorities. That turned out to be a vain hope, since the
FBI had multiple informers inside the meeting. They then debated and
voted down a proposal to assassinate several pro-war US Senators. John
Kerry, who until recently claimed to have resigned from the VVAW the
previous June, was also present for this session according to the FBI
files and a number of eyewitnesses. Senator Kerry now says he
remembers nothing of the Kansas City meeting. 

John Kerry would continue to serve as the VVAW's primary spokesman for
several more months. Newspaper reports indicate that he represented
the VVAW in public appearances at least as late as April 1972. 

The FBI files on the VVAW raise many questions, but one thing is
clear: John Kerry and his VVAW comrades were welcome guests of the
Vietnamese communists in both Paris and Hanoi, guests who could be
counted on to actively support the leadership of America's wartime
enemy.