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Re: Kerry met with Vietcong while still in uniform!

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From: Uncle Samuel
Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2004 17:52
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Lou P. Garrew wrote:

> BushitBushitBushit wrote:
> 
>>Lou P. Garrew wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Noise of fleefromhonesty wrote:
>>>
>>>(snippity-snippity-snip of lies)
>>>
>>>The title is true -- the "meeting" was called combat.
>>>Glad you know that much.
>>>
>>>
>>>Lou P. Garrew, at your service!
>>
>>HE met the Cong in Paris. Pictures are in the Viet Cong War Museum.
> 
> 
> Along with that photo of 

http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/staticpages/index.php?page=20040421205043310

In June 1971, Le Duc Tho arrived in Paris to join the North Vietnamese 
Communist delegation to the peace talks. His arrival marked a sea change 
in the Communists' approach to advancing their goals via negotiations. 
Le Duc Tho was with Ho Chi Minh one of the original founders of the 
Communist Party of Indochina, one of North Vietnam's chief strategists.

He arrived to join a comrade, Madame Nguyen Thi Binh, who had been a 
member of the Central Committee for the National Front for the 
Liberation of the South, and was now Foreign Minister of the Provisional 
Revolutionary Government (PRG) of South Vietnam. The military arm of the 
PRG was widely known as the Viet Cong, just as Madame Binh was widely 
recognized as the Viet Cong delegate to the conference.

On July 1, 1971, within days of Le Duc Tho's arrival, Madame Binh 
advanced a new 7-Point Proposal to end the war. Central to this plan was 
a cleverly crafted provision offering to set a date for the return of 
U.S. prisoners of war in exchange for the Americans setting a date for 
complete, unilateral military withdrawal from Vietnam. In other words, 
America could have her POWs back only if we would agree we lost, 
surrender, and set a date to leave.

About one year earlier, two young Americans had also come to Paris, 
arguably for their honeymoon -- John Kerry, a young, clean-shaven Navy 
war veteran, accompanied by his new wife, the former Julia Thorne, whose 
lineage traced back to George Washington.

But honeymooning was not John Kerry's only purpose in traveling to 
Paris. Kerry's presidential campaign has now acknowledged that he 
"talked privately with a leading communist representative" there.

On April 22, 1971, as he testified before Senator Fulbright's Committee 
on Foreign Relations, John Kerry mentioned that in Paris he had meetings 
with "both sides" of the Paris Peace Talks. The strong likelihood is 
that John Kerry also met with Le Duc Tho, or some other representative 
of the North Vietnamese delegation, in addition to Madame Binh who was 
in Paris representing the PRG. There is no reason to assume John Kerry 
had any interest in meeting with representatives of the other two sides 
in the Peace Talks -- the United States or South Vietnam.

Madame Binh's proposal was carefully crafted to send a strong emotional 
message to the American home front; that the only barrier to having our 
POWs returned was America's own unwillingness to set a date to withdraw 
-- even if the proposed withdrawal amounted to a defeat. The 7-Point 
Proposal directly challenged the South Vietnamese proposal to set a date 
for a truce and a free election designed to reunify Vietnam. The PRG and 
the Viet Cong clearly agreed with the Premier of Communist China, Cho 
En-lai that complete withdrawal of American military forces from Vietnam 
was the only precondition that would be discussed.

On July 22, 1971, John Kerry called a press conference in Washington, 
D.C. Speaking on behalf of Vietnam Veterans Against the War (VVAW), 
Kerry openly urged President Nixon to accept Madame Binh's 7-Point plan.

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