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Kenneth Pangborn wrote:
> 
> "Charles M. Kozierok" <ixlu@PCGuide.com> wrote in message
> news:gBaT5.702$yA5.98062@news.shore.net...
> 
> > Oh, nonsense. They could get the recount done long before the 12th,
> > which is 19 days away. The same court that picked the 11/26 date could
> > extend it a few days if they so chose.
> 
>     Sure the court could extend it to June 2nd,2002, byt they didn't. The
> point is that the count in Dade county CANNOT be done by Dec. 12th. Of
> course I will defer to YOU as an EXPERT on this. You seem to know more than
> the election commission. So I guess I just have to take YOURS and Mike
> Daley's WORD for this.
> 
> > } So Miami's  MANUFACTURED VOTES won't come in.
> 
> > They aren't "manufactured". They are required *by law* to determine
> > voter intent, if it is reasonably clearly indicated. I have said this
> > numerous times, quoted appropriate law, and it has been confirmed by
> > multiple courts. Rhetoric won't change it.
> 
>     Ah yes CARNACK the magnificent. ANY indentation ANYWHERE on the ballot
> means it is a GORE vote! Oh look, the ballot is discolored, that PROVES that
> the voter had the intent to vote for AL GORE!  Whjat will be thr RULE today?
> That   ALL Votes for Bush were REALLY intended to be for Gore? That the
> PEOPLE just got confused and voted for the WRONG MAN?
> 
>     They are MNANUFACTURED. You forget, that Miami has already had problems
> with documented voter FRAUD! Say and if it is such an HONEST proceedings,
> why did they try to move the counting to a SECRET room with police keeping
> out the media and the public? OPEN and FREE election? Yeah, many by Chinese
> standards.  As Stalin said; "it isn't the voters who count in an election,
> it is the people who COUNT the votes."  Amazing how in Palm Beach we find a
> PILE of chads underneath the Democratic counters. Not by the Republican
> ones. AGAIN you have to look at this election in some context. the FRAUDS in
> Milwaukee by the Gore Campaign bussing winos from polling place to polling
> place having them vote dozens of times for AL GORE, getting the students in
> the Democratic Clubs at the universities to vote as many as 25 times for AL
> GORE, we can look at the GOON SQUAD hired by the GORE Campaign to be in the
> polling places in Little Haiti to COERCE votes for Gore. We can look at the
> scheme to hi-jack the electoral college by the Gore campaign with a
> systematic plan to BLACKMAIL Republican electors to switch their votes to
> Gore.  We can look at Palm Beach now on its SIXTH recount of the ballots.
> Two machine counts Gore LOST, and three hand counts changing the rules each
> time because GORE wasn't picking up enough new votes, now to this last RULE
> which allows ANY INDENTAION ANYWHERE ON THE BALLOT to be counted as a GORE
> VOTE!
> 
>     I'd say they ARE....... MANUFACTURING votes or damn well trying to! And
> according to polls being done, so does about 68% of the American people!
> 
>  > Bush is very lucky that Miami/Dade packed it in, or he was probably
> through.
> 
>     Of course. They could easilyt find 8 milliuon new votes for Gore there.
> They HAVE before! Miami's election machine is infamous in Florida for FIXED
> elections. But that you guys HAVE to rely on MAKING ballots AFTER the
> election SCREAMS volumes about you and your candidate. He's a CROOK!
> 
> > } Let me remind you of a small FACT. That  MASSIVE fraud WAS proved in
> Miami by the Democrats STUFFING the ballot box } on a previous HAND COUNT.
> And Miami had to switch mayors. There is NO
>  provision to switch Presidents.
> 
> > A bunch of typically hysterical accusations. I can agree that the
> > process in Florida is a mess, but it is because *the law itself is a
> mess*.
> 
>     Not hysterical at all. The elction process in Miami has been infamous in
> Florida for decades. Never was it more rigged than during Janet Reno's days.
> I don't know where you live, but in Florida we pretty well recall two
> reporters who found a storeage area that had voting machines and pre punched
> ballots for an up coming election. The material was turned over to the cops
> and Reno to prosecute the election fraud. Instead of arresting the people
> behind the attempted fraud, the evidence "disappeared" and the reporters
> were arrested at Reno's instructions.  And nobodsy knows this better than
> the people of Florida and the people of Miami. It is interesting to hear
> people from elsewhere tell us that it is "hysterical."
> 
> > I said a week or more ago that there were two laws in conflict: the
> > Supreme Court of Florida said exactly that in their ruling. The
> > ridiculous wording of the law is as vague as vague can be. I think these
> > county people are doing the best they can, given the very difficult
> > situation they are in. I heard Judge Burton talk for a while yesterday
> > and he seemed to me to be an intelligent person who did want to do what
> > was fair. He's just been put in an almost impossible situation.
> 
>     No the law isn't in conflict. And that isn't what the court ruled. The
> court found that in their opinion the Secretarty of State has NO DISCRETION
> on elections. The court moved into uncharted waters and set aside the law
> enacted by the legislature and negated the actions of the ELECTED
> administrative branch of government. All of which MIGHT have been reasonable
> IF................ IF............... IF.... the court had set ANY standards
> for determining the voter intent. SINCE the ruling, Palm beach county has
> CHANGED the standards TWICE that it has been using. Each time, finding NOT
> ENOUGH new votes for Gore, so they EXPANDED their rules to allow in ballots
> as votes that would not have the day before.  Sir, we call that RIGGING AN
> ELECTION! That may work in CHICAGO but it doesn't fly in Florida. Steps were
> taken to stop the fraud in Miami since they got rid of the legal obstacle to
> HONEST elections, Fidel Reno!
> 
> > }     Yeah I have developed a bias.
> 
> > Developed? You've been frothing at the mouth since you joined this
> discussion.
> 
>     And you haven't? I have seen HARD LINERS before, BUT.... your selective
> input cyle is something to behold. No matter what happens you can filter out
> anything that disarees with your original conclusion that gore won.
> 
> > } I have sat and watched a PATTERN. I have
> > } seen the voter fraud in Milwaukee with bussing winos from polling place
> to
> 
> > *chop* *chop* *chop* *chop*
> 
> > Run, they're coming for you!
> 
>     Are you claiming there was NO bussing of winos in Milwaukee by a DEPUTY
> in the Gore campaign? Are oyu claiming that There were NO goons in the
> polling places in litte Haiti? Are you claiming that Gore agent Beckel is
> NOT trying to blackmail Republican electors? So we all should disregard the
> video of the Gore Deputy doing what we ALL saw?  We should disregard what
> Beckel said on both Fox News and MSNBC? Forget the video on ABC. Nothing is
> true but what YOU and AL tell us is true? Pay NO attention to that man
> behind the curtain????? Now if I believed you I'd have to be pretty stujpid.
> And if you REALLY think I am going to YOU are the one with the intelligence
> problem. Quit trying to seel me a bucket of horseshit, and MAYBE I'll be
> less hyper about it.
> 
> > Listen, you can write all the allegations you want, in upper case if
> > that thrills you. There are plenty of allegations on all sides. They are
> > not proof, they are not even evidence. Well, they re evidence of your
> > inability to think rationally on this matter...
> 
>     See, my thing is that absent some showing that the video was FAKED, I
> tend to accept that as PROOF of an event. Do we see a claim ANYWHERE that
> the deals in Milwaukee didn't happen? That the tapes shown on ABC were
> faked? Are you claiming that Bob Beckel isn't real?  You see to buy YOUR
> arguments we have to deny ALL that.  We have to ignore that Palm Beach is
> now on its SIXTH recount. Changing rules three times in the hand recounts.
> Now Gore has said that if the hand recounts don't give him enough he will go
> to court and make them do it AGAIN and AGAIN and AGAIN until "I WIN!"  He is
> willing to put this entire nation in INTENSE AGONY all for his naked
> ambition. Screw what this is doing to our country. The hell with the crash
> dive the stock market has been in; "I WANT TO BE PRESIDENT."
> 
>     Well I can't be certain that Gore won't win. If he does, he'll regret it
> or America will. He will be the MOST HATED President in American history and
> without the support of even the majority of people who voted FOR him.
> Perhaps you miss the quiet whispers from Democrats in Congress urging Gore
> to knock it off. The Republican majority in Congress is going to include a
> bunch of honest Democrats, and they are FAR more numerous that the
> Republicans or Gore realize. And unlike candidates in the past who lost an
> election like this and came back to win the next election, that won't happen
> now for Al. He knows, he either steals THIS election or he is though forever
> anyway. In the end, honest democrats are as turned off as the rest of the
> country is with Algore's hijinks. It's over! One way or the other, it's
> OVER! And Gore has lost. Even if he STEALS the presidency he has lost the
> American people. He might get 4 years in the White House or 20 years in
> Leavenworth. Only the future will tell us which.
Very original.
Is this Mr. Limbaugh.