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Re: Public vs. Private schools

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From: Don Whiteside
Date: Fri, 25 Nov 1994 18:19
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In article <3b1c9j$58m@tequesta.gate.net>, <dhaire@gate.net> writes:

> Terry C Shannon (shannon@world.std.com) wrote:
> : It should come as no surprise that test scores are higher at private
> : schools.  Private schools don't have to put up with guns, thugs and
> : all the rest of the stuff that's encountered at public schools.
> : Perhaps more  importantly, the teacher to pupil ratio is generally
> : better in private schools. 
> 
> And just why should public schools have to "put up with guns, thugs, 
> and all the rest of the stuff"?

Well, (a) because the public school mandate is to provide education to 
all, so the smaller problems must be dealt with rather than the possible 
private school response of just tossing out offenders. (b) because at 
this age, we've still got the chance to turn these punks around, so it's 
in our long term interest to try to reform them rather than just toss 
them and increase the probability they'll end up as professional 
criminals and a burden on all of us.

Let me add, however, that I _don't_ support this no-guts approach of 
letting these slimeballs stay in normal schools and endanger and disrupt 
other students. Gutless school officials and spineless legislators fail 
to take the drastic steps necessary because they don't want to upset the 
incompetent parents who have raised these delinquents. We should take 
these child offenders and put them in the boot camp type schools that 
have been shown to have a positive effect on them. We let HRS disrupt the 
lives of people for unproven offenses - there's no reason to not take the 
necessary drastic steps to deal with these kids.
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From: Don Whiteside <dwhite@shadow.net>
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Subject: Re: Public vs. Private schools
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