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Article #17Re: Jeb Bush for Governor
From: Don Whiteside
Date: Wed, 09 Nov 1994 23:04
Date: Wed, 09 Nov 1994 23:04
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In article <39q9uc$413@baygull.rtd.com>, <Legion@azol.com> writes: > To have originally proposed health care in the form of the Clinton > Health Care Plan was "an affront to the people he's supposed to serve." Irrelevant to this point. Dole was not threatening to halt the legislation because it was bad, but because he wasn't being allowed to have his little hearings and bang on Clinton. It wasn't even about accountability or justice - those hearings mean _nothing_ and affect no legislation or sentancing. They were just about a republican chance to embarass Clinton. Fine, the dems to it too. But to hold up legitamate business over it? There is no defense for that. > Gridlock is the only thing saving us from ourselves. Legislation that > gets passed should be based upon a broad consensus--NOT on dragging > the VP down to make a 51-50 victory for the administration's position. The VP has that vote to break a tie in exactly this kind of case. It's no more unreasonable than the veto which you mention in the following sentance. > The veto lets the President force passage by a broad consensus on > legislation that he opposes. > > The fillibuster is the only method that lets the minority force a > broad consensus be needed to pass legislation they oppose. Comparing the veto's purpose with this cowardly tool designed to garner favors and pork is insulting to the founders.
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 101eb4,e0fc583aabddaa4e X-Google-Attributes: gid101eb4,public X-Google-Thread: 1094cd,e0fc583aabddaa4e X-Google-Attributes: gid1094cd,public X-Google-Thread: 11e3b3,58da619e7b4a3e93 X-Google-Attributes: gid11e3b3,public X-Google-Thread: 10ce75,e0fc583aabddaa4e X-Google-Attributes: gid10ce75,public X-Google-Thread: 115357,e0fc583aabddaa4e X-Google-Attributes: gid115357,public X-Google-Thread: fec2a,e0fc583aabddaa4e X-Google-Attributes: gidfec2a,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1994-11-09 15:04:17 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!nntp.gmd.de!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!howland.reston.ans.net!spool.mu.edu!caen!usenet.cis.ufl.edu!anshar.shadow.net!usenet From: Don Whiteside <dwhite@shadow.net> Newsgroups: fl.news,fl.general,cybergate.politics,cybergate.miami,alt.politics.usa.republican,alt.politics.elections Subject: Re: Jeb Bush for Governor Followup-To: fl.news,fl.general,cybergate.politics,cybergate.miami,alt.politics.usa.republican,alt.politics.elections Date: Wed, 09 Nov 94 16:04:17 PDT Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc. Lines: 27 Message-ID: <39rdkc$ddp@anshar.shadow.net> References: <39q9uc$413@baygull.rtd.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp-10.shadow.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Newsreader: NEWTNews & Chameleon -- TCP/IP for MS Windows from NetManage