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6 total messages Started by BAH Wed, 01 Oct 2003 23:04
They have to improve ........
#155
Author: BAH
Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2003 23:04
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The council put a lot of effort into sorting out the parking nightmare
around Molineux on match days.

I hope it wasn't wasted effort.......?
Re: They have to improve ........
#156
Author: Chris
Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2003 18:43
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"BAH" <BAH@melcombe.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> The council put a lot of effort into sorting out the parking nightmare
> around Molineux on match days.
>
> I hope it wasn't wasted effort.......?
>
>
I thought the residents had complained they had nowhere to park, hence the
ban on football parking?
Before the Chelsea match the other Saturday there were hardly any cars
parked around the estate at all, so it's not as if the residents use the
roads for parking anyway. Miserable moaning nimby bastards.
Re: They have to improve ........
#157
Author: iain paul
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 17:23
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fortunately you don't have to put up with the hassle of cars parked outside
your front door, and the congestion and obstruction caused by football fans
who just can't be bothered to use the matchday parking facilities provided
by wolverhampton council because they have to pay �1.50 or �2, instead they
just park inconsiderately and cause a nuisance and obstruct the roads. In my
opinion there is no place for a football stadium in town/city centres or
near residential areas, they should be sited well out of the way of
everything.
"Chris" <odowdchr@TAKEMEOUThotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "BAH" <BAH@melcombe.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:V3Jeb.6404$OJ.52556014@news-text.cableinet.net...
> > The council put a lot of effort into sorting out the parking nightmare
> > around Molineux on match days.
> >
> > I hope it wasn't wasted effort.......?
> >
> >
> I thought the residents had complained they had nowhere to park, hence the
> ban on football parking?
> Before the Chelsea match the other Saturday there were hardly any cars
> parked around the estate at all, so it's not as if the residents use the
> roads for parking anyway. Miserable moaning nimby bastards.
>
>
Re: They have to improve ........
#158
Author: BAH
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 22:49
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"iain paul" <iain.paul@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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> fortunately you don't have to put up with the hassle of cars parked
outside
> your front door, and the congestion and obstruction caused by football
fans
> who just can't be bothered to use the matchday parking facilities provided
> by wolverhampton council because they have to pay �1.50 or �2, instead
they
> just park inconsiderately and cause a nuisance and obstruct the roads. In
my
> opinion there is no place for a football stadium in town/city centres or
> near residential areas, they should be sited well out of the way of
> everything.
>
>
Iain, I couldn't agree more!

I have this theory that if I approached the council Planning Department for
approval to build

 - a monstrosity of a place with ugly steelwork sticking out, lighting that
fills the night sky, noise that can be heard at times several miles away and
in a location such that the complete area will be disrupted for hours by
people, cars and often louts -

there is no way.  But call it a football stadium and the planning
regulations adapt to approve it!

By the same token, if I asked the Chief Constable for approval to run some
event that would cause the same chaos and confusion as football it would be
disallowed.........

My view is shaped by experiences such as trying to get to work on a night
shift many years ago and sitting at the traffic lights for what seemed like
30 minutes whilst the police gave departing Wolves supporters priority on
the Birmingham New Road.

Add the ridiculous salaries they get, the scandals they attract, this week's
incidents etc and it's clear that the 'great' game has deteriorated to
disgrace and as such the worship of football needs to stop, or at least get
back into control.

Oh well, had my  rant, feel better for it.
Re: They have to improve ........
#160
Author: Chris
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 19:47
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"iain paul" <iain.paul@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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> fortunately you don't have to put up with the hassle of cars parked
outside
> your front door, and the congestion and obstruction caused by football
fans
> who just can't be bothered to use the matchday parking facilities provided
> by wolverhampton council because they have to pay �1.50 or �2, instead
they
> just park inconsiderately and cause a nuisance and obstruct the roads. In
my
> opinion there is no place for a football stadium in town/city centres or
> near residential areas, they should be sited well out of the way of
> everything.

Unless you're over 130 years old, then the football ground and it's much
larger crowd was there before you and most of the houses.  It's due to an
unforeseen problem of building too many houses with no off-street car
parking and the public now being able to afford to run more than one
vehicle.  There's the current problem of terraced house owners with
potentially one parking space outside buying 2 or 3 cars and then
complaining to the local authority about the lack of places to park them!
There's no legal right for anyone to park outside their own houses on the
public highway, and residents parking schemes often cause more strife than
peace (given that spaces are not allocated and you take from a strictly
numbered pool of spaces, where do your kids or visitors park? People become
less worried about parking directly outside their neighbours's houses
because 'they have a permit').  For the sake of an afternoon's football
parking once a fortnight it's often a heavier price to pay.
Re: They have to improve ........
#161
Author: Chris
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:04
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"BAH" <BAH@melcombe.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> "iain paul" <iain.paul@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:3f859b46$1_9@news.athenanews.com...
> > fortunately you don't have to put up with the hassle of cars parked
> outside
> > your front door, and the congestion and obstruction caused by football
> fans
> > who just can't be bothered to use the matchday parking facilities
provided
> > by wolverhampton council because they have to pay �1.50 or �2, instead
> they
> > just park inconsiderately and cause a nuisance and obstruct the roads.
In
> my
> > opinion there is no place for a football stadium in town/city centres or
> > near residential areas, they should be sited well out of the way of
> > everything.
> >
> >
> Iain, I couldn't agree more!
>
> I have this theory that if I approached the council Planning Department
for
> approval to build>
>  - a monstrosity of a place with ugly steelwork sticking out, lighting
that
> fills the night sky, noise that can be heard at times several miles away
and
> in a location such that the complete area will be disrupted for hours by
> people, cars and often louts ->
> there is no way.  But call it a football stadium and the planning
> regulations adapt to approve it!

Again, the planners would say there's been no difference to the use of the
site in the last 100 years and the whole community should be aware of it and
the way it works.

> By the same token, if I asked the Chief Constable for approval to run some
> event that would cause the same chaos and confusion as football it would
be
> disallowed.........

If you could demonstrate the economic benefit to the police force they
wouldn't have a problem, as public servants.

> My view is shaped by experiences such as trying to get to work on a night
> shift many years ago and sitting at the traffic lights for what seemed
like
> 30 minutes whilst the police gave departing Wolves supporters priority on
> the Birmingham New Road.

There are just too many cars on the road. If they didn't all have to park in
the City Centre there might be a better dispersal system ;-)

> Add the ridiculous salaries they get, the scandals they attract, this
week's
> incidents etc and it's clear that the 'great' game has deteriorated to
> disgrace and as such the worship of football needs to stop, or at least
get
> back into control.

Agreed, but it's a general deterioration in society that's entered football
along with the ridiculous wages.

> Oh well, had my  rant, feel better for it.

Great, good to read it !
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