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In a previous article, kmr4@po.CWRU.Edu (Keith M. Ryan) says:

>        Consider for the moment: they have a forced clientele numbering in 
>the thousands. Regardless of how poor their service is, they will receive 
>their money. In fact, the worse the service, the more kids are likely to 
>go out to eat, or the like. This only increases their profit, as they need
>to order less food. Any business would kill to have such a market: the
>abilityto charge anything for a product without fear of loosing customers, the 
>ability to provide any quality of service, without fear, etc. They offer 
>many excuses, but offer no solutions. 
>        
>        For example:
>        
>        They claim that as they are a "small business", they can not buy in
>bulk like chain stores. This is false: Marriott is a large company, national
>and perhaps, international. They have an affiliation with Pepsico, Pizza
>Hut, Taco Bell, and many many more. Any inability to purchase goods at a 
>competitive price is due to their own inability and incompetence.
>
>        They claim that the lack of plates and utensils is not their
>fault.This is false. When I eat at the Olive Garden: I expect a fork ( let
>alone a clean fork! ). I do not care one iota about their problems with their
>supply of forks. I have paid them for a service, and they ought to produce. If
>theyreally are having problems with individual students stealing objects,
>theythey ought to focus on them: and not punish the rest of us. For any
>otherresterant, if they did not have clean plates- they would either be
>shut down by the health commission, or loose their clientele. Marriott ought 
>to have a better work ethic.
>	If they refuse to provide the services expected of them, their
>contract should be voided, and a new company should be brought in to super
>ceed Marriott. 


Good points.  Marriott is also our food service at Augie.  We have all 
of the same problems.  We actually thought, two years ago, when we first
got Marriott, that we were in for a treat, based on the quality of the 
food at their hotels.  What we got was a slap in the face and a bunch
of people wanting our private food service back.

These same thoughts have been going through our student newspaper, of 
which I am an editor. 

I know most on the 'net will be uninterested in this exchange, but 
thanks for bringing ut up.
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STEVE RISWOLD        |   "Though all society is founded on intolerance, 
AUGUSTANA COLLEGE    |    all imporvement is founded on tolerance."
SIOUX FALLS, SD      |        -GEORGE B. SHAW
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kmr4@po.CWRU.Edu (Keith M. Ryan) writes:
[A long explanation of exactly what's wrong with their caf]

>        In protest of this monopoly, I suggest doing the following for the 
>final three days of school.

[Waste lots of food deliberately and maliciously]

>        After all, we paid for it! It's *OUR* food!
>       
>        To any who wish to claim that one ought not to be doing this on the
>grounds of hunger in the world: You are more then welcome to stand by with
>a clean container, and/or garbage back in the back, to collect the food.

I take it you've never starved?  Deliberately wasting large ammounts
of food has always been drilled into my head as a no-no -- nearly
tanamount to manslaughter.  
	Anyway, the actual thrust of this message was the header file.
Wow, that's a lot of unrelated groups, about half of which couldn't
care less about the quality of food in your dining hall, or the lack
thereof.

Newsgroups:
freenet.pub-sq.podium, freenet.pub-sq.speakeasy,
freenet.pub-sq.speakeasy.social, freenet.pub-sq.nonsexist.issue,
freenet.pub-sq.boomer.general, freenet.pub-sq.mensa.round,
cwru.general, freenet.pub-sq.kiosk, freenet.rec.irc.open,  alt.evil,
alt.atheism, alt.beer, alt.sex.bestiality, alt.sex.bondage,
alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.fan.monty-python, rec.arts.bodyart, rec.nude

I'm not familliar with the freenet, so I'll assume that your message
is a round tableland, a general boomer, and a kiosk.  For the rest,
I'll see if I can guess how your message is relevant to these other
groups.
 
Perhaps alt.evil is a little extreme?  I admit that dining hall food
is bad,  but not THAT bad.
You consider monopolies on mass-produced food to be
proof of the non-existence of God, so you have to get drunk to
enjoy it.
Alt.sex.bestiality?  Do you need advice on how to get it on
with the chicken pot pie?  What sorts of attractive animals do you
FIND in a dining hall?  (besides the defensive line of the women's
rugby team, I mean).  
	Alt.sex.bondage.  You've decided that if your
food-wasting techniques don't help, you'll kidnap the head cook, and
reenact 9 1/2 weeks on hir, and you want advice on how to procede.  
	Alt.fan.monty-python?  You're going to recreate the "Fattest
Man in the World" scene from "Meaning of Life".
Alt.fan.rush-limbaugh?  Ditto.
	Rec.arts.bodyart.  You feel that you're doing artistic
scarification on your esophagus by eating in the dining hall, and want
to share your discovery. 
	rec.nude?  Umm. . . . I can't think of any way that this can
fit in.

	The internet is a scary place.  If you put just a couple words
in the wrong place, you can look like an idiot in front of tens of
thousands of people, and it is REAL EASY to screw up.  So, in
general, just be aware of what you're doing.

	- Ian
	I'd be more coherent, but it's 4:30 in the morning on finals week.

In a previous article, kmr4@po.CWRU.Edu (Keith M. Ryan) says:

>        CWRU students in general seem to have forgotten several items.

(1) birth control
(2) acne medicine
(3) realization that Cleveland is not the rock n roll capital of the world

>        We, as a whole, are consumers. We have a need ( and in some cases )
>a desire for a service. This service is a meal plan. 

you case bozos have been hoodwink.  you pay all this money and all you
get is a fleanet acct and very lousy hotel food.   your school is fucken
schitzo (case vs. reserve) too.  maybe you should just crack out the
grape kool-aid before it's too late.

>        Marriott is the company which was selected to provide this service.
>( seemingly against all logic ) 

if you got some people to REALLY protest (or not eat) you'd probably be
able to get another company to serve you mental giants.  but if you did,
there's a good chance the National Guard will shoot you.

>        However, for quite some time, Marriott has been negligent in providing 
>this service. They charge exhorbinant prices in the C-store. A 1 liter bottle 
>of coke does NOT cost anywhere near $1.49 ( No flames if it has gone up, yet 
>again! ) If they are not making a HUGE profit, then they are highly
>incompe-tent. 

stores don't make huge profits.  and a buck and half is a lot for a 1 liter
since drugmart regularly sells 2 liters for under a dollar.

>        Consider for the moment: they have a forced clientele numbering in 
>the thousands. Regardless of how poor their service is, they will receive 
>their money. In fact, the worse the service, the more kids are likely to 
>go out to eat, or the like. This only increases their profit, as they need
>to order less food. Any business would kill to have such a market: the
>abilityto charge anything for a product without fear of loosing customers, the 
>ability to provide any quality of service, without fear, etc. They offer 
>many excuses, but offer no solutions. 

stop eating there.  mount a sit in.  order some pizza.  take back the night!
>        
>        They claim that as they are a "small business", they can not buy in
>bulk like chain stores. This is false: Marriott is a large company, national
>and perhaps, international. They have an affiliation with Pepsico, Pizza
>Hut, Taco Bell, and many many more. Any inability to purchase goods at a 
>competitive price is due to their own inability and incompetence.

anyone can buy in bulk.  

>	If they refuse to provide the services expected of them, their
>contract should be voided, and a new company should be brought in to super
>ceed Marriott. 

who cares what students think.  it's not like PARENTS are complaining
en masse.

>        In protest of this monopoly, I suggest doing the following for the 
>final three days of school.

killing yourself?

>        When ever you can, as often as you can: fill a tray completely with
>food: main dish, side dish, salad, drinks, etc. Then, take the tray, and
>send it "down the chute". After each of my meals, I plan on sending another
>complete meal down the disposal chute.

that's not very PC (cf. Somalia).  why don't you get get some of your
friends to refuse to eat there or at the very least, demand cancellation
of their meal contracts.

j.

-- 
Jerry Renault, Esq.				
Bendini, Lambert & Locke			

So, did you get any nasty mail yet from the Freenet administration about
this massive crossposting?  :-)



-- 
David H. Gorski, M. D.       |"Many that live deserve death.  And some
Dept. Physiology & Biophysics| that die deserve life.  Can you give it to
CWRU School of Medicine      | them?  Then do not be so eager to deal out
e-mail: dhg2@po.cwru.edu     | death in judgment."--Gandalf the Grey

In a previous article, kmr4@po.CWRU.Edu (Keith M. Ryan) says:

>
>
>        CWRU students in general seem to have forgotten several items.
>
>        We, as a whole, are consumers. We have a need ( and in some cases )
>a desire for a service. This service is a meal plan. 
>
>        Marriott is the company which was selected to provide this service.
>( seemingly against all logic ) 

So, Keith, have you gotten any nasty e-mail yet from the Freenet
administration about this humongous cross-posting?  Just wondering. :-)

-- 
David H. Gorski, M. D.       |"Many that live deserve death.  And some
Dept. Physiology & Biophysics| that die deserve life.  Can you give it to
CWRU School of Medicine      | them?  Then do not be so eager to deal out
e-mail: dhg2@po.cwru.edu     | death in judgment."--Gandalf the Grey

Unless Marriott has been screwing the dead food animals they have been
serving to you (Jack Sauce with that pate'?), this is kind of out of
place on the alt.sex.* groups.  (Even if they have, I'm not sure dead
food animals count, though they do on the Purity Test.)  

However, on the topic, Marriott just took over part of the dining service
here at RPI this year.  They have done a very good job.  I think that
part of the problem with their service in some cases is a matter of the
contract they use.  Marriott, at least here, just manages the food service.
The people who work here are school employees, with the exception of the
managers.  They are given a school budget, school workers, and they make
do quite well on it, at least here.  DAKA runs another part of
the food service, and they have made big improvments of late, as well.
Maybe it is the competition, but I think it is a matter of having fairly
good workers to start with.  

Contractually, they may not have the money to order new forks, etc., to
buy quality ingredients, and they may be saddled with the same old
kitchen help you hated before.  I don't know the exact nature of your
dining administration contract, but bitch to the school administration
as well as the Marriott folks.  At least here, Marriott and DAKA provide
nothing but administrative services.  The school is responsible for 
supplies, money exchanges, and workers.

(Oh, and make sure to check the newsgroup line before you send responses
to this, and only send to groups that care.)

E.S.