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In <74791@hydra.gatech.EDU> vapspuq@prism.gatech.EDU (ROBERT WILLIAM DODGE) writes:

>At this stage, I want to remind you:  it has been known for quite a
>while that humans are by *no means* the only species to exhibit
>both hetero- and homosexual behavior.  Question for the Peanut Gallery:
>Do gay *animals* have "psychological problems", and should they be lumped
>in with other animals who abuse their children, murder, steal, cheat
>on their mates, gamble and drink to excess?  :-) JUST KIDDING!!!

Animals exhibit reprehensible behaviour.  There is no reason to
justify human actions based on evidence that other animals exhibit
the same behaviour.  Ought we eat our children and leave the sick
to die?

>(And don't use the "Homosexuality isn't natural" argument, find 
>another one.  It happens to be perfectly "natural", as such, for all one
>has to do is turn to nature, where it is manifested in animal behavior
>...I'm *serious*)

Actually, as far as I know, homosexuality tends to show up in
overpopulated mammalian communities.  Ie. too many rats in a closed
cage will start to exhibit such behaviour.  Clearly it is quite
natural for animals to perform homosexual acts, as well as auto-
erotic acts. 

>Anyway, I'm holding my breath, waiting for the "empirical proof" that
>homosexuality is biological...but somehow, I don't think that should be
>necessary... (gasp)

To be quite honest, such proof is irrelevant.  This thread
started with a discussion of certain laws which were to be
used discriminately in cases where homosexuality is involved.
In a truly color/sex/sexuality-blind law environment, such
discriminatory laws are self-fulfilling, and self-contradictory,
as not only to they further discriminate, as well as giving
names to the groups that they discriminate both for and against,
but in doing so perpetuate an atmosphere of tolerance for
discrimination.

Laws which help those who have been discriminated against
themselves discriminate against those who supposedly haven't
been discriminated against, thus once these laws are in effect,
everybody is discriminated against, and perhaps new laws to
help those who are being discriminated against because they
weren't discriminated against before will have to be made.
The logic goes in circles and the laws weave a chaotic
mess for us to have to trudge through.  Ultimately, it looks
like anti-discrimination laws help no one but the lawyers.

--David
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