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Article #366Re: Georgia's Governor is a Wimp..
From: Phil Couch
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 14:50
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 14:50
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"Steve Hall" <tunnlhll@catt.com> wrote in message news:bi9hh7$s8v@library1.airnews.net... The RIGHT THING would be to allow a FAIR vote of the people of this state, after all, this is supposed to be a democracy! I know, someone will say that it is really a "representative democracy" but the flag fight clearly shows that our representatives are NOT following the will of their constituents. -- Steve Hall "Rob Jones" <RJones@msn.com> wrote in message news:vc0286r6eh2c3@corp.supernews.com... > no he did the right thing. see the way it works is that the loser of the > Civil War (that's the south) should not be allowed to fly their flag. since > when can the loser of a War fly their own flag? get over it. the Civil War > is settled and the South needs to get educated and move on.( or continue > down the same dead end road they've been on) > > --rj > > > "Brojack" <brojack99@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:cd6f2cf5.0305120802.476af0e9@posting.google.com... > > Gov. Sonny Perdue of Georgia is a wimp!! He bowed down to the darkies > > and change the flag to leave out the Conferate part. Dam wimp. Right > > now, we got a border-line racist in the White House, and he is packing > > the courts. All Sonny had to do is wait. We are going to roll back all > > the Civil Rights Shit, all the Voting Right Shit, and Roe vs Wade.. > > You watch.. Bush is packing the courts. And do be suprised if you > > don't see BORK nominated to the Supreme Court. > > > > And the Affirmative Action is going to be history.. It is a done > > deal... > > > > Brojack > > > > http://www.msnbc.com/news/910979.asp?0dm=N24FN > > > > The new Georgia state flag and the U.S. flag wave by Miss Liberty on > > the Capitol in Atlanta. > > > > Governor signs bill to replace Georgia's flag > > > > Dixie cross of stars removed > > > > > > ASSOCIATED PRESS > > > > > > > > ATLANTA, May 8 - Gov. Sonny Perdue signed a bill Thursday to > > replace the unpopular 2-year-old state flag with a simpler design that > > does not include a Confederate battle emblem. > > > > > > > > 'I've never seen anybody flying it! You ever seen it on a boat? You > > ever seen it at a football game? Nobody flies this thing!' > > - GEORGIA REP. LARRY WALKER > > THE NEW FLAG, inspired by a national Confederate flag but > > without the divisive Dixie cross of stars, was raised over the Capitol > > for the first time shortly after the governor signed the bill. > > "The flag the General Assembly adopted honors Georgia's past," > > Perdue said before signing the bill. "It is also a flag that will > > allow us to move forward together." > > The flag displays the state's coat of arms and the words "In > > God We Trust" on a blue corner in the top left, with three > > red-and-white stripes to the right. > > The 2001 flag was called a political masterstroke when it was > > adopted, replacing a divisive banner dominated by the Confederate > > battle cross. > > But the closing hours of Georgia's shortest-lived flag brought > > little in the way of fond farewells. Even some of the architects of > > the 2001 flag gave it a curt obituary. > > > > NO "DREAM FLAG" > > "In no way am I sad that flag is being retired," joked Rep. > > Tyrone Brooks, a black Atlanta Democrat who led the charge to adopt it > > two years ago. "It's not exactly, you know, anybody's dream flag." > > The brief-flying state flag was a compromise intended to shrink > > the Confederate emblem but incorporate the symbol in a mini-montage of > > old Georgia flags. > > The result was what many considered a visual train wreck of > > words, seals and stars. > > The flag was voted the nation's ugliest by a group of flag > > experts just five months after it was adopted. Southern heritage > > groups started calling it a "rag." Schoolchildren couldn't draw it. > > Around the Capitol, it was commonly referred to as looking like a > > place mat from a Denny's restaurant. > > As lawmakers wrangled for months over changing the state flag > > this winter and spring, a rural Democrat summed up Georgia's > > frustration with the 2001 banner. > > "I've never seen anybody flying it!" cried Rep. Larry Walker, > > of Perry, south of Macon. "You ever seen it on a boat? You ever seen > > it at a football game? Nobody flies this thing!" > > Georgia's latest flag saga started last summer, when a rural > > Republican - Perdue - started talking about it in his underdog > > campaign to oust Democratic Gov. Roy Barnes. His promise of a > > statewide vote on the flag figured prominently in his surprise victory > > in November. > > Perdue originally wanted a vote on the 1956 flag with its > > dominant Dixie "X" - adopted by an all-white > > > > Legislature at the height of Southern resistance to > > integration. > > But after months of arguing, lawmakers decided to quash any > > chance of the Confederate emblem's revival and drew a new flag > > instead. Perdue agreed to the compromise. > > Civil rights groups had threatened an economic boycott if > > Georgia revived the Dixie cross, which many blacks lawmakers call a > > symbol of oppression. Southern heritage advocates, on the other hand, > > called the new flag a betrayal. > > > > REFERENDUM NEXT YEAR > > Georgia voters will still get a referendum next year - to pick > > between the new three-stripe flag and the 2001 flag. Few give the 2001 > > flag any chance to win. > > "It's a flag that Georgians didn't warm up to," said Merle > > Black, a political scientist at Emory University. "They just didn't > > embrace it. Very few people ever bought that flag except the ones that > > had to, schools and so on." > > Perdue said he was not completely satisfied with the bill > > because it did not give people a chance to vote on restoring the 1956 > > state flag. > > "While this bill does not include everything I asked for in my > > plan, I will respect the decision of the elected representatives of > > the people of Georgia," Perdue said. > > Even critics of the 2001 flag's design acknowledge that it > > served its purpose as a transition piece that made the replacement of > > the 1956 flag possible. > > And Barnes, whose official portrait in the Capitol shows him in > > front of the 2001 flag, he has no regrets. > > "The important thing was to remove the Confederate emblem from > > its position of prominence," said Bobby Kahn, Barnes' chief of staff. > > "That was the important step. And we're still proud of that." > > It is not now, nor has it ever been a Democracy, it's a Republic. I will agree Perdue is a wimp. He led you flaggers into believing there would be a vote, and you fell for it and elected him. Joke is on you!
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