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Article #368Re: Dead/Dying Malls in GA
From: gary
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 22:34
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 22:34
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"Steve Hall" <tunnlhll@catt.com> wrote in message news:<bi9hau$t9v@library1.airnews.net>... Obviously, these suffer from what developers laughingly refer to as "creeping jungleism" or "creeping spookism." Gary > One note on Riverbend Mall in Rome. They may have stated they were > rebuilding it on filled ground, but they are already going up with buildings > with little or no filling. I was through there just a few weeks ago. > > -- > Steve Hall > Commander - Lt. Col. Wm. M. Luffman Camp #938 SCV - Chatsworth, GA > Moderator - Georgia Division Sons of Confederate Veterans E-mail groups > > <sjohnson1010@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:ac410029.0306051940.babca32@posting.google.com... > > *I reposted this snipped topic hoping that a better name for the post > > would generate more interest, so here goes:* > > > > <snip> > > > > Here's my take on local malls that appear to be facing a bleak future: > > > > Shannon Mall > > > > Change in demographics, median income and a high crime rate in the > > area is not faring well in this mall with two of four anchors gone and > > a portion of the mall closed. If you look at the graveyard of boarded > > up outlots, it seems that the owners were too optomistic when they > > renovated a couple years ago. I guess those of us who know where this > > place is may be looking at a Dixie Square in the future. More > > importantly is that this mall, built in 1980, is suffering horribly > > from competition from the new Arbor Place Mall in Douglasville and > > from northside malls, such as Perimeter and Lenox. > > > > Cumberland Mall > > > > From what I understand, this was in its time the largest mall in the > > country. Opened in 1973, it drew in customers from far away and > > subsequently destroyed nearby Cobb Centre Mall which was finally torn > > down in the late 1990's. The irony these days is that Cumberland Mall > > has earned a reputation as the "black mall", and is beginning to see > > the effects that such a stigma has as the mall is loosing one of its > > strongest anchors. As I spent many childhood years in this mall, I > > would hate to see it go, but I wonder what is ahead. If it looses any > > more anchors, it might not be good news. > > > > Gwinnett Place Mall > > > > A mall I am not very familiar with, but it is in a similar situation > > with Cumberland, though it is more of a sister to Town Center than to > > Cumberland. It now faces stiff competition from the Mall of Georgia > > and is in an area that has seen significant demographic change just in > > the past few years. It is my guess that it will have to form its own > > niche to hold its own. > > > > Southlake Mall > > > > Don't know much about it, but I haven't heard that it's doing all that > > well. It seems odd considering that there is a large population base > > that is starved for a mall in that area. It almost seems that the > > region has chosen big box over mall in attempts to avoid these malls > > judging by the phenomenal complex built between GA 85 and GA 314 in > > Fayetteville. > > > > ...and now for the totally dead and completely gone... > > > > Cobb Centre Mall (Smyrna) > > > > As one of the first regional malls outside Atlanta, Cobb Centre opened > > in the post WWII inner ring suburbs around Smyrna. I understand it > > was very successful for many years after it opened in the 1960's > > featuring a two-level Rich's, W.T. Grant, Woolworths, Turtles, Davis > > Brothers Cafeteria, Dunaway Drugs and several other tenants. It was > > also originally an open air mall as well. The slow and painful death > > of this tiny mall began in the 1970's when Cumberland Mall opened. In > > response, the mall was enclosed in some of the dreariest 70's stylin' > > ever seen. I vaguely remember the architecture featured very dark > > wood and dim lighting and looked very dated by the late 1980's. This > > is when the fatal death blow came: Town Center. Opened in 1986, this > > mall effectively wiped out the regional customer base, which could not > > be matched with a local base. In an attempt to save the mall itself, > > which was dying despite the fact that Rich's continued to do better, > > it was again renovated with a lighter more modern interior and > > redubbed "Four Seasons Mall". Howard's moved from a local bar and > > grill into the old Davis Brothers and established itself as a bona > > fide restaurant. Howard's relocated soon after to a former steakhouse > > and the movie theatre was getting in bad shape next to the mall. > > After Woolworth's left, the only remaining tenants included Eckerds > > and Friedmann's Jewerlry. The mall was closed and finally gutted in > > the late 1990's. After the demolition, all that remained was Rich's > > and the movie theaters. The front entrance to the mall is now a strip > > mall with a Publix and only the Rich's remains, but now only as an > > outlet store and the future of this outlet store remains in doubt as > > the area continues to further decline despite the best efforts of the > > city of Smyrna. > > > > Riverbend Mall (Rome) > > > > This mall was a disaster area...literally. It went from a small > > regional serving Rome, parts of Alabama and parts of NW GA into an > > empty shell within 10 years. It would be reasonable to say it began > > when the whole mall was flooded by muddy brown water from Etowah > > River. (photo of the flooding > > here)http://gaia.fc.peachnet.edu/geology/images/riverbend%20photo.jpg > > > > Built in the river's natural floodplain, it was a poor choice for a > > mall site, but it did well for about 15 years, opened sometime in the > > 1970's with three anchors, a Belk Rhodes, JCPenney and Miller's. > > Miller's later became Hess's. In the early 1990's, this mall was > > replaced with a very poorly located Mount Berry Square, but it > > effectively emptied this mall in one fellow swoop with Belk Rhodes and > > JCPenney opening larger, nicer stores at the new mall. This was > > pretty rough considering the mall had just opened a new food court a > > few years earlier that included Chick Fil'A. The old Belk's became a > > shared outlet with the west end of the store becoming a medical > > center. The Hess's changed briefly to a very odd Bon-Ton (the only > > one I have ever seen in the Southeast) and at last Ford's Furniture. > > It is not known what happened in the interior, but CVS (formerly Reed > > Drugs and Revco) was one of the last tenants remaining, and it had an > > outside entrance as well. > > > > The mall as it was is now demolished in favor of new development built > > on filled higher ground including a Barnes and Noble, Ross, Outback > > Steakhouse and a new medical center to replace the old one located in > > the old Belk's. > > > > I would appreciate any additional details on this old mall-it is of > > great interest to me. > > > > Roswell Mall (Roswell) > > > > Opened in 1974 with Richway as its sole anchor, it was doomed from the > > start. Nevertheless, it was at the time the only regional mall north > > of Perimeter. It basically consisted of Richway, the mall itself, a > > movie theater and Morrison's Cafeteria. Kmart came as a new anchor > > later and the mall became wedged in an uncomfortable position not > > visible from the highway. Morrison's later closed and the mall, > > already basically empty in 1989, was completely dead by the 1990's > > except for an Upton's that opened next to the Target that replaced > > Richway. In the 1990's, Upton's closed, Target changed to Value City > > and Kmart is now closed. Even with the mall recently gutted and > > reconstructed with a better cinema, it still looks grim for this > > ill-fated plaza in an area that is beginning to decline. Once again, > > further info appreciated on this mall. > > > > OTHER malls of curiosity: > > > > What did the Plaza Fiesta (obviously a Mexican shopping mall) used to > > be? I noticed it on the news recently and was amazed that a bona fide > > shopping mall is now a mall with a unique niche. > > > > Avondale Mall: I hear this mall was very similar in its history to > > Cobb Centre. > > > > Walnut Square Mall (Dalton). I wonder how this mall is doing in a > > city that is largely Hispanic. > > > > Lake Shore Mall (Gainesville): As the only mall in Hall County, this > > mall has always gotten a thriving business, but as Hall County is a > > major mecca for Mexican immigrants, it seems to have become a "Mexican > > Mall". Does anyone know anything about this mall, anchored by Sears > > and Belk? It looks to be very small but by no means dead. > > > > I would also LOVE to hear your other entries for dead, dying or sickly > > looking malls across the state of Georgia. There are a few others I > > wanted to mention here, but avoided in fear of starting a flame war, > > because I could be dead wrong.
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