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Article #370Re: Georgia's Governor is a Wimp..
From: Steve Hall
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 03:06
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 03:06
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Apparently you did not read the second paragraph of my reply, and no where did I say that I was a "flagger." You are assuming things that you know nothing about. -- Steve Hall Commander - Lt. Col. Wm. M. Luffman Camp #938 SCV - Chatsworth, GA Moderator - Georgia Division Sons of Confederate Veterans E-mail groups "Phil Couch" <couchp@spamcomcast.com> wrote in message news:4JudnUp_suCFv9eiXTWJiQ@comcast.com... > > "Steve Hall" <tunnlhll@catt.com> wrote in message > news:bi9hh7$s8v@library1.airnews.net... > The RIGHT THING would be to allow a FAIR vote of the people of this state, > after all, this is supposed to be a democracy! > > I know, someone will say that it is really a "representative democracy" but > the flag fight clearly shows that our representatives are NOT following the > will of their constituents. > > -- > Steve Hall > > "Rob Jones" <RJones@msn.com> wrote in message > news:vc0286r6eh2c3@corp.supernews.com... > > no he did the right thing. see the way it works is that the loser of the > > Civil War (that's the south) should not be allowed to fly their flag. > since > > when can the loser of a War fly their own flag? get over it. the Civil > War > > is settled and the South needs to get educated and move on.( or continue > > down the same dead end road they've been on) > > > > --rj > > > > > > "Brojack" <brojack99@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > news:cd6f2cf5.0305120802.476af0e9@posting.google.com... > > > Gov. Sonny Perdue of Georgia is a wimp!! He bowed down to the darkies > > > and change the flag to leave out the Conferate part. Dam wimp. Right > > > now, we got a border-line racist in the White House, and he is packing > > > the courts. All Sonny had to do is wait. We are going to roll back all > > > the Civil Rights Shit, all the Voting Right Shit, and Roe vs Wade.. > > > You watch.. Bush is packing the courts. And do be suprised if you > > > don't see BORK nominated to the Supreme Court. > > > > > > And the Affirmative Action is going to be history.. It is a done > > > deal... > > > > > > Brojack > > > > > > http://www.msnbc.com/news/910979.asp?0dm=N24FN > > > > > > The new Georgia state flag and the U.S. flag wave by Miss Liberty on > > > the Capitol in Atlanta. > > > > > > Governor signs bill to replace Georgia's flag > > > > > > Dixie cross of stars removed > > > > > > > > > ASSOCIATED PRESS > > > > > > > > > > > > ATLANTA, May 8 - Gov. Sonny Perdue signed a bill Thursday to > > > replace the unpopular 2-year-old state flag with a simpler design that > > > does not include a Confederate battle emblem. > > > > > > > > > > > > 'I've never seen anybody flying it! You ever seen it on a boat? You > > > ever seen it at a football game? Nobody flies this thing!' > > > - GEORGIA REP. LARRY WALKER > > > THE NEW FLAG, inspired by a national Confederate flag but > > > without the divisive Dixie cross of stars, was raised over the Capitol > > > for the first time shortly after the governor signed the bill. > > > "The flag the General Assembly adopted honors Georgia's past," > > > Perdue said before signing the bill. "It is also a flag that will > > > allow us to move forward together." > > > The flag displays the state's coat of arms and the words "In > > > God We Trust" on a blue corner in the top left, with three > > > red-and-white stripes to the right. > > > The 2001 flag was called a political masterstroke when it was > > > adopted, replacing a divisive banner dominated by the Confederate > > > battle cross. > > > But the closing hours of Georgia's shortest-lived flag brought > > > little in the way of fond farewells. Even some of the architects of > > > the 2001 flag gave it a curt obituary. > > > > > > NO "DREAM FLAG" > > > "In no way am I sad that flag is being retired," joked Rep. > > > Tyrone Brooks, a black Atlanta Democrat who led the charge to adopt it > > > two years ago. "It's not exactly, you know, anybody's dream flag." > > > The brief-flying state flag was a compromise intended to shrink > > > the Confederate emblem but incorporate the symbol in a mini-montage of > > > old Georgia flags. > > > The result was what many considered a visual train wreck of > > > words, seals and stars. > > > The flag was voted the nation's ugliest by a group of flag > > > experts just five months after it was adopted. Southern heritage > > > groups started calling it a "rag." Schoolchildren couldn't draw it. > > > Around the Capitol, it was commonly referred to as looking like a > > > place mat from a Denny's restaurant. > > > As lawmakers wrangled for months over changing the state flag > > > this winter and spring, a rural Democrat summed up Georgia's > > > frustration with the 2001 banner. > > > "I've never seen anybody flying it!" cried Rep. Larry Walker, > > > of Perry, south of Macon. "You ever seen it on a boat? You ever seen > > > it at a football game? Nobody flies this thing!" > > > Georgia's latest flag saga started last summer, when a rural > > > Republican - Perdue - started talking about it in his underdog > > > campaign to oust Democratic Gov. Roy Barnes. His promise of a > > > statewide vote on the flag figured prominently in his surprise victory > > > in November. > > > Perdue originally wanted a vote on the 1956 flag with its > > > dominant Dixie "X" - adopted by an all-white > > > > > > Legislature at the height of Southern resistance to > > > integration. > > > But after months of arguing, lawmakers decided to quash any > > > chance of the Confederate emblem's revival and drew a new flag > > > instead. Perdue agreed to the compromise. > > > Civil rights groups had threatened an economic boycott if > > > Georgia revived the Dixie cross, which many blacks lawmakers call a > > > symbol of oppression. Southern heritage advocates, on the other hand, > > > called the new flag a betrayal. > > > > > > REFERENDUM NEXT YEAR > > > Georgia voters will still get a referendum next year - to pick > > > between the new three-stripe flag and the 2001 flag. Few give the 2001 > > > flag any chance to win. > > > "It's a flag that Georgians didn't warm up to," said Merle > > > Black, a political scientist at Emory University. "They just didn't > > > embrace it. Very few people ever bought that flag except the ones that > > > had to, schools and so on." > > > Perdue said he was not completely satisfied with the bill > > > because it did not give people a chance to vote on restoring the 1956 > > > state flag. > > > "While this bill does not include everything I asked for in my > > > plan, I will respect the decision of the elected representatives of > > > the people of Georgia," Perdue said. > > > Even critics of the 2001 flag's design acknowledge that it > > > served its purpose as a transition piece that made the replacement of > > > the 1956 flag possible. > > > And Barnes, whose official portrait in the Capitol shows him in > > > front of the 2001 flag, he has no regrets. > > > "The important thing was to remove the Confederate emblem from > > > its position of prominence," said Bobby Kahn, Barnes' chief of staff. > > > "That was the important step. And we're still proud of that." > > > > > > It is not now, nor has it ever been a Democracy, it's a Republic. I will > agree Perdue is a wimp. He led you flaggers into believing there would be a > vote, and you fell for it and elected him. Joke is on you! > >
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