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Re: Georgia's Governor is a Wimp..

#402
From: Phil Couch
Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 15:43
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"Cowboy67" <cowboy67111NOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:ba6feg$f6qt$1@news3.infoave.net...
>
> "Phil Couch" <couchp@attbi.com> wrote in message
> news:Opyxa.622230$OV.580483@rwcrnsc54...
> >
> > "Cowboy67" <cowboy67111NOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:ba63ca$f1ld$1@news3.infoave.net...
> > > the us is a sovereign independent nation that WAS beat up by viet nam.
> why
> > > the flag?
> > >
> > > the CSA flag is not any worse than the american flag we have now. It
> stood
> > > for the same thing! Racism? Nope! States rights? Yes! Slavery was
around
> a
> > > lot longer than the CSA battle flag has been, and guess what flag was
> > flying
> > > the whole time during slavery. Yep, you got it DUMB FUCK, the ole flag
> we
> > > all know today. That's right, now put your argument to rest, cause now
> you
> > > have nothing to stand on. Oh, did I forget to call you DUMB FUCK?
> > >
> > >
> > > "Rob Jones" <RJones@msn.com> wrote in message
> > > news:vcci13ojm2phba@corp.supernews.com...
> > > > hey shit for brains, Viet nam is a sovereign, independent nation
that
> > was
> > > > NOT defeated by the good ole' U.S. of A.   that's why they continue
to
> > fly
> > > > their flag. we did not defeat them or restructure they government.
> > (unlike
> > > > Iraq which we have defeated and have removed any sighs of Saddam's
> > regime)
> > > > we fly our Flag because no one has invaded our land and defeated us.
> if
> > > they
> > > > had, we would not be flying our flag(unless they allowed it, of
> course)
> > > I
> > > > shouldn't have to explain the obvious. you should get out and read
> more.
> > > >
> > > > --rj
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Cowboy67" <cowboy67111NOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:ba1jbd$ctfo$1@news3.infoave.net...
> > > > > if that were the case, shouldn't we take down the American flag
due
> to
> > > the
> > > > > loss of Viet nam? we lost. we shouldn't fly the flag. isn't that
> right
> > > dim
> > > > > wit? let's see, we have states that fly all the flags of countries
> > that
> > > > lost
> > > > > their land in the us. Florida flies France, Spain,Britain, us and
> csa.
> > > > alot
> > > > > of state flags, Alabama, were csa battle flags. so get real dim
wit.
> > the
> > > > guv
> > > > > is as much an idiot as u.
> > > > > "Rob Jones" <RJones@msn.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:vc0286r6eh2c3@corp.supernews.com...
> > > > > > no he did the right thing. see the way it works is that the
loser
> of
> > > the
> > > > > > Civil War (that's the south) should not be allowed to fly their
> > flag.
> > > > > since
> > > > > > when can the loser of a War fly their own flag?  get over it.
the
> > > Civil
> > > > > War
> > > > > > is settled and the South needs to get educated and move on.( or
> > > continue
> > > > > > down the same dead end road they've been on)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --rj
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Brojack" <brojack99@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:cd6f2cf5.0305120802.476af0e9@posting.google.com...
> > > > > > > Gov. Sonny Perdue of Georgia is a wimp!! He bowed down to the
> > > darkies
> > > > > > > and change the flag to leave out the Conferate part. Dam wimp.
> > Right
> > > > > > > now, we got a border-line racist in the White House, and he is
> > > packing
> > > > > > > the courts. All Sonny had to do is wait. We are going to roll
> back
> > > all
> > > > > > > the Civil Rights Shit, all the Voting Right Shit, and Roe vs
> > Wade..
> > > > > > > You watch.. Bush is packing the courts. And do be suprised if
> you
> > > > > > > don't see BORK nominated to the Supreme Court.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > And the Affirmative Action is going to be history.. It is a
done
> > > > > > > deal...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Brojack
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > http://www.msnbc.com/news/910979.asp?0dm=N24FN
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The new Georgia state flag and the U.S. flag wave by Miss
> Liberty
> > on
> > > > > > > the Capitol in Atlanta.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Governor signs bill to replace Georgia's flag
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Dixie cross of stars removed
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ASSOCIATED PRESS
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >       ATLANTA, May 8 -  Gov. Sonny Perdue signed a bill
Thursday
> > to
> > > > > > > replace the unpopular 2-year-old state flag with a simpler
> design
> > > that
> > > > > > > does not include a Confederate battle emblem.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >  'I've never seen anybody flying it! You ever seen it on a
boat?
> > You
> > > > > > > ever seen it at a football game? Nobody flies this thing!'
> > > > > > > - GEORGIA REP. LARRY WALKER
> > > > > > >          THE NEW FLAG, inspired by a national Confederate flag
> but
> > > > > > > without the divisive Dixie cross of stars, was raised over the
> > > Capitol
> > > > > > > for the first time shortly after the governor signed the bill.
> > > > > > >        "The flag the General Assembly adopted honors Georgia's
> > > past,"
> > > > > > > Perdue said before signing the bill. "It is also a flag that
> will
> > > > > > > allow us to move forward together."
> > > > > > >        The flag displays the state's coat of arms and the
words
> > "In
> > > > > > > God We Trust" on a blue corner in the top left, with three
> > > > > > > red-and-white stripes to the right.
> > > > > > >        The 2001 flag was called a political masterstroke when
it
> > was
> > > > > > > adopted, replacing a divisive banner dominated by the
> Confederate
> > > > > > > battle cross.
> > > > > > >        But the closing hours of Georgia's shortest-lived flag
> > > brought
> > > > > > > little in the way of fond farewells. Even some of the
architects
> > of
> > > > > > > the 2001 flag gave it a curt obituary.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > NO "DREAM FLAG"
> > > > > > >        "In no way am I sad that flag is being retired," joked
> Rep.
> > > > > > > Tyrone Brooks, a black Atlanta Democrat who led the charge to
> > adopt
> > > it
> > > > > > > two years ago. "It's not exactly, you know, anybody's dream
> flag."
> > > > > > >        The brief-flying state flag was a compromise intended
to
> > > shrink
> > > > > > > the Confederate emblem but incorporate the symbol in a
> > mini-montage
> > > of
> > > > > > > old Georgia flags.
> > > > > > >        The result was what many considered a visual train
wreck
> of
> > > > > > > words, seals and stars.
> > > > > > >        The flag was voted the nation's ugliest by a group of
> flag
> > > > > > > experts just five months after it was adopted. Southern
heritage
> > > > > > > groups started calling it a "rag." Schoolchildren couldn't
draw
> > it.
> > > > > > > Around the Capitol, it was commonly referred to as looking
like
> a
> > > > > > > place mat from a Denny's restaurant.
> > > > > > >        As lawmakers wrangled for months over changing the
state
> > flag
> > > > > > > this winter and spring, a rural Democrat summed up Georgia's
> > > > > > > frustration with the 2001 banner.
> > > > > > >        "I've never seen anybody flying it!" cried Rep. Larry
> > Walker,
> > > > > > > of Perry, south of Macon. "You ever seen it on a boat? You
ever
> > seen
> > > > > > > it at a football game? Nobody flies this thing!"
> > > > > > >        Georgia's latest flag saga started last summer, when a
> > rural
> > > > > > > Republican - Perdue - started talking about it in his underdog
> > > > > > > campaign to oust Democratic Gov. Roy Barnes. His promise of a
> > > > > > > statewide vote on the flag figured prominently in his surprise
> > > victory
> > > > > > > in November.
> > > > > > >        Perdue originally wanted a vote on the 1956 flag with
its
> > > > > > > dominant Dixie "X" - adopted by an all-white
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >          Legislature at the height of Southern resistance to
> > > > > > > integration.
> > > > > > >        But after months of arguing, lawmakers decided to quash
> any
> > > > > > > chance of the Confederate emblem's revival and drew a new flag
> > > > > > > instead. Perdue agreed to the compromise.
> > > > > > >        Civil rights groups had threatened an economic boycott
if
> > > > > > > Georgia revived the Dixie cross, which many blacks lawmakers
> call
> > a
> > > > > > > symbol of oppression. Southern heritage advocates, on the
other
> > > hand,
> > > > > > > called the new flag a betrayal.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > REFERENDUM NEXT YEAR
> > > > > > >        Georgia voters will still get a referendum next year -
to
> > > pick
> > > > > > > between the new three-stripe flag and the 2001 flag. Few give
> the
> > > 2001
> > > > > > > flag any chance to win.
> > > > > > >        "It's a flag that Georgians didn't warm up to," said
> Merle
> > > > > > > Black, a political scientist at Emory University. "They just
> > didn't
> > > > > > > embrace it. Very few people ever bought that flag except the
> ones
> > > that
> > > > > > > had to, schools and so on."
> > > > > > >        Perdue said he was not completely satisfied with the
bill
> > > > > > > because it did not give people a chance to vote on restoring
the
> > > 1956
> > > > > > > state flag.
> > > > > > >        "While this bill does not include everything I asked
for
> in
> > > my
> > > > > > > plan, I will respect the decision of the elected
representatives
> > of
> > > > > > > the people of Georgia," Perdue said.
> > > > > > >        Even critics of the 2001 flag's design acknowledge that
> it
> > > > > > > served its purpose as a transition piece that made the
> replacement
> > > of
> > > > > > > the 1956 flag possible.
> > > > > > >        And Barnes, whose official portrait in the Capitol
shows
> > him
> > > in
> > > > > > > front of the 2001 flag, he has no regrets.
> > > > > > >        "The important thing was to remove the Confederate
emblem
> > > from
> > > > > > > its position of prominence," said Bobby Kahn, Barnes' chief of
> > > staff.
> > > > > > > "That was the important step. And we're still proud of that."
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > I always like to see so called conservatives responding to an issue, the
> > response consists of, dumb fuck, dick head, asshole, socialist bastard,
> etc.
> > No facts, just name calling.  Kinda' lets us know the mentality of what
we
> > are dealing with.
>
> And your facts are....? read above your liberal friend started in with the
> "hey shit for brains..." I love it when lib's are wrong! just goes to
prove
> there welfare programs don't work! like this dim wit above for instance,
> CAN'T READ!
>
>
Read the posts.  Look at yours, instead of an intellegent argument, you
resorted to name calling.  Point proven.
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