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Article #402Re: Georgia's Governor is a Wimp..
From: Phil Couch
Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 15:43
Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 15:43
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"Cowboy67" <cowboy67111NOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:ba6feg$f6qt$1@news3.infoave.net... > > "Phil Couch" <couchp@attbi.com> wrote in message > news:Opyxa.622230$OV.580483@rwcrnsc54... > > > > "Cowboy67" <cowboy67111NOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > news:ba63ca$f1ld$1@news3.infoave.net... > > > the us is a sovereign independent nation that WAS beat up by viet nam. > why > > > the flag? > > > > > > the CSA flag is not any worse than the american flag we have now. It > stood > > > for the same thing! Racism? Nope! States rights? Yes! Slavery was around > a > > > lot longer than the CSA battle flag has been, and guess what flag was > > flying > > > the whole time during slavery. Yep, you got it DUMB FUCK, the ole flag > we > > > all know today. That's right, now put your argument to rest, cause now > you > > > have nothing to stand on. Oh, did I forget to call you DUMB FUCK? > > > > > > > > > "Rob Jones" <RJones@msn.com> wrote in message > > > news:vcci13ojm2phba@corp.supernews.com... > > > > hey shit for brains, Viet nam is a sovereign, independent nation that > > was > > > > NOT defeated by the good ole' U.S. of A. that's why they continue to > > fly > > > > their flag. we did not defeat them or restructure they government. > > (unlike > > > > Iraq which we have defeated and have removed any sighs of Saddam's > > regime) > > > > we fly our Flag because no one has invaded our land and defeated us. > if > > > they > > > > had, we would not be flying our flag(unless they allowed it, of > course) > > > I > > > > shouldn't have to explain the obvious. you should get out and read > more. > > > > > > > > --rj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Cowboy67" <cowboy67111NOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > > > news:ba1jbd$ctfo$1@news3.infoave.net... > > > > > if that were the case, shouldn't we take down the American flag due > to > > > the > > > > > loss of Viet nam? we lost. we shouldn't fly the flag. isn't that > right > > > dim > > > > > wit? let's see, we have states that fly all the flags of countries > > that > > > > lost > > > > > their land in the us. Florida flies France, Spain,Britain, us and > csa. > > > > alot > > > > > of state flags, Alabama, were csa battle flags. so get real dim wit. > > the > > > > guv > > > > > is as much an idiot as u. > > > > > "Rob Jones" <RJones@msn.com> wrote in message > > > > > news:vc0286r6eh2c3@corp.supernews.com... > > > > > > no he did the right thing. see the way it works is that the loser > of > > > the > > > > > > Civil War (that's the south) should not be allowed to fly their > > flag. > > > > > since > > > > > > when can the loser of a War fly their own flag? get over it. the > > > Civil > > > > > War > > > > > > is settled and the South needs to get educated and move on.( or > > > continue > > > > > > down the same dead end road they've been on) > > > > > > > > > > > > --rj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Brojack" <brojack99@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > > > > > news:cd6f2cf5.0305120802.476af0e9@posting.google.com... > > > > > > > Gov. Sonny Perdue of Georgia is a wimp!! He bowed down to the > > > darkies > > > > > > > and change the flag to leave out the Conferate part. Dam wimp. > > Right > > > > > > > now, we got a border-line racist in the White House, and he is > > > packing > > > > > > > the courts. All Sonny had to do is wait. We are going to roll > back > > > all > > > > > > > the Civil Rights Shit, all the Voting Right Shit, and Roe vs > > Wade.. > > > > > > > You watch.. Bush is packing the courts. And do be suprised if > you > > > > > > > don't see BORK nominated to the Supreme Court. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And the Affirmative Action is going to be history.. It is a done > > > > > > > deal... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Brojack > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.msnbc.com/news/910979.asp?0dm=N24FN > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The new Georgia state flag and the U.S. flag wave by Miss > Liberty > > on > > > > > > > the Capitol in Atlanta. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Governor signs bill to replace Georgia's flag > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dixie cross of stars removed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ASSOCIATED PRESS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ATLANTA, May 8 - Gov. Sonny Perdue signed a bill Thursday > > to > > > > > > > replace the unpopular 2-year-old state flag with a simpler > design > > > that > > > > > > > does not include a Confederate battle emblem. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'I've never seen anybody flying it! You ever seen it on a boat? > > You > > > > > > > ever seen it at a football game? Nobody flies this thing!' > > > > > > > - GEORGIA REP. LARRY WALKER > > > > > > > THE NEW FLAG, inspired by a national Confederate flag > but > > > > > > > without the divisive Dixie cross of stars, was raised over the > > > Capitol > > > > > > > for the first time shortly after the governor signed the bill. > > > > > > > "The flag the General Assembly adopted honors Georgia's > > > past," > > > > > > > Perdue said before signing the bill. "It is also a flag that > will > > > > > > > allow us to move forward together." > > > > > > > The flag displays the state's coat of arms and the words > > "In > > > > > > > God We Trust" on a blue corner in the top left, with three > > > > > > > red-and-white stripes to the right. > > > > > > > The 2001 flag was called a political masterstroke when it > > was > > > > > > > adopted, replacing a divisive banner dominated by the > Confederate > > > > > > > battle cross. > > > > > > > But the closing hours of Georgia's shortest-lived flag > > > brought > > > > > > > little in the way of fond farewells. Even some of the architects > > of > > > > > > > the 2001 flag gave it a curt obituary. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NO "DREAM FLAG" > > > > > > > "In no way am I sad that flag is being retired," joked > Rep. > > > > > > > Tyrone Brooks, a black Atlanta Democrat who led the charge to > > adopt > > > it > > > > > > > two years ago. "It's not exactly, you know, anybody's dream > flag." > > > > > > > The brief-flying state flag was a compromise intended to > > > shrink > > > > > > > the Confederate emblem but incorporate the symbol in a > > mini-montage > > > of > > > > > > > old Georgia flags. > > > > > > > The result was what many considered a visual train wreck > of > > > > > > > words, seals and stars. > > > > > > > The flag was voted the nation's ugliest by a group of > flag > > > > > > > experts just five months after it was adopted. Southern heritage > > > > > > > groups started calling it a "rag." Schoolchildren couldn't draw > > it. > > > > > > > Around the Capitol, it was commonly referred to as looking like > a > > > > > > > place mat from a Denny's restaurant. > > > > > > > As lawmakers wrangled for months over changing the state > > flag > > > > > > > this winter and spring, a rural Democrat summed up Georgia's > > > > > > > frustration with the 2001 banner. > > > > > > > "I've never seen anybody flying it!" cried Rep. Larry > > Walker, > > > > > > > of Perry, south of Macon. "You ever seen it on a boat? You ever > > seen > > > > > > > it at a football game? Nobody flies this thing!" > > > > > > > Georgia's latest flag saga started last summer, when a > > rural > > > > > > > Republican - Perdue - started talking about it in his underdog > > > > > > > campaign to oust Democratic Gov. Roy Barnes. His promise of a > > > > > > > statewide vote on the flag figured prominently in his surprise > > > victory > > > > > > > in November. > > > > > > > Perdue originally wanted a vote on the 1956 flag with its > > > > > > > dominant Dixie "X" - adopted by an all-white > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Legislature at the height of Southern resistance to > > > > > > > integration. > > > > > > > But after months of arguing, lawmakers decided to quash > any > > > > > > > chance of the Confederate emblem's revival and drew a new flag > > > > > > > instead. Perdue agreed to the compromise. > > > > > > > Civil rights groups had threatened an economic boycott if > > > > > > > Georgia revived the Dixie cross, which many blacks lawmakers > call > > a > > > > > > > symbol of oppression. Southern heritage advocates, on the other > > > hand, > > > > > > > called the new flag a betrayal. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > REFERENDUM NEXT YEAR > > > > > > > Georgia voters will still get a referendum next year - to > > > pick > > > > > > > between the new three-stripe flag and the 2001 flag. Few give > the > > > 2001 > > > > > > > flag any chance to win. > > > > > > > "It's a flag that Georgians didn't warm up to," said > Merle > > > > > > > Black, a political scientist at Emory University. "They just > > didn't > > > > > > > embrace it. Very few people ever bought that flag except the > ones > > > that > > > > > > > had to, schools and so on." > > > > > > > Perdue said he was not completely satisfied with the bill > > > > > > > because it did not give people a chance to vote on restoring the > > > 1956 > > > > > > > state flag. > > > > > > > "While this bill does not include everything I asked for > in > > > my > > > > > > > plan, I will respect the decision of the elected representatives > > of > > > > > > > the people of Georgia," Perdue said. > > > > > > > Even critics of the 2001 flag's design acknowledge that > it > > > > > > > served its purpose as a transition piece that made the > replacement > > > of > > > > > > > the 1956 flag possible. > > > > > > > And Barnes, whose official portrait in the Capitol shows > > him > > > in > > > > > > > front of the 2001 flag, he has no regrets. > > > > > > > "The important thing was to remove the Confederate emblem > > > from > > > > > > > its position of prominence," said Bobby Kahn, Barnes' chief of > > > staff. > > > > > > > "That was the important step. And we're still proud of that." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I always like to see so called conservatives responding to an issue, the > > response consists of, dumb fuck, dick head, asshole, socialist bastard, > etc. > > No facts, just name calling. Kinda' lets us know the mentality of what we > > are dealing with. > > And your facts are....? read above your liberal friend started in with the > "hey shit for brains..." I love it when lib's are wrong! just goes to prove > there welfare programs don't work! like this dim wit above for instance, > CAN'T READ! > > Read the posts. Look at yours, instead of an intellegent argument, you resorted to name calling. Point proven.
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 10e1e4,ba789f095e0ff733 X-Google-Attributes: gid10e1e4,public X-Google-Thread: 109097,ba789f095e0ff733 X-Google-Attributes: gid109097,public X-Google-Thread: fa15f,ba789f095e0ff733 X-Google-Attributes: gidfa15f,public X-Google-Thread: fbe16,ba789f095e0ff733 X-Google-Attributes: gidfbe16,public X-Google-Thread: 107d03,ba789f095e0ff733 X-Google-Attributes: gid107d03,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-05-18 08:43:41 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!cyclone.bc.net!sjc70.webusenet.com!news.webusenet.com!newsfeed2.earthlink.net!newsfeed.earthlink.net!wn14feed!wn13feed!worldnet.att.net!204.127.198.203!attbi_feed3!attbi.com!rwcrnsc54.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Phil Couch" <couchp@attbi.com> Newsgroups: ga.general,alt.military,atl.general,houston.general,la.general References: <cd6f2cf5.0305120802.476af0e9@posting.google.com> <vc0286r6eh2c3@corp.supernews.com> <ba1jbd$ctfo$1@news3.infoave.net> <vcci13ojm2phba@corp.supernews.com> <ba63ca$f1ld$1@news3.infoave.net> <Opyxa.622230$OV.580483@rwcrnsc54> <ba6feg$f6qt$1@news3.infoave.net> Subject: Re: Georgia's Governor is a Wimp.. Lines: 314 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <MSNxa.629848$OV.586880@rwcrnsc54> NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.98.14.32 X-Complaints-To: abuse@attbi.com X-Trace: rwcrnsc54 1053272620 24.98.14.32 (Sun, 18 May 2003 15:43:40 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 15:43:40 GMT Organization: AT&T Broadband Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 15:43:40 GMT