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On 19 Oct 1996 18:31:20 GMT, tmorizot@infinity.ccsi.com (Scott
Morizot) wrote:

>Cici Clovis (cclovis@mail.gte.net) wrote:
>: >:In article <53neue$oe2@paraguay.earthlink.net>,
>: >:clement@link.com <Calvin> wrote:

>: And you, sir or madam as the case may be, are a true child of Adam.

>: "And they heard the sound of the Lord God walking in the garden in the
>: cool of the day, and the man and his wife hid themselves from the
>: presence of the Lord God among the trees of the garden.  But the Lord
>: God called to the man, and said to him, "Where are you?"  And he said,
>: "I heard the sound of thee in the garden, and I was afraid, because I
>: was naked; and I hid myself."  He said, "Who told you that you were
>: naked?  Have you eaten of the tree of which I commanded you not to
>: eat?"  The man said, "The woman whom thou gavest to be with me, she
>: gave me fruit of the tree, and I ate." Genesis, chapter 3, verses
>: 8-12

>: Attaboy, Adam.  Take it like a man.  Blame it on a woman.

>I like it.  It's about true, too.  :)  But the way I've always
>read Genesis, Eve was tricked.  Adam wasn't.  He did what he
>did knowing it was wrong.  (And then tried to blame Eve.)
>Which one was worse?

Tricked, lied to, whatever -- the serpent told her that if she ate the
fruit (note:  no apple is mentioned, just fruit) she would be like
God.  As to who did what, the relevant verse reads like this in the
Revised Standard Version (Gen 3:6)

"So when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it
was a delight to the eyes, and that the tree was to be desired to make
one wise, she took of its fruit and ate; and she also gave some to her
husband, and he ate."

Kinda hard to know from that text just what Adam's state of mind or
intent was.  Perhaps nuances in the ancient Hebrew text would clear
this up, but I"m not an ancient languages scholar.  Although I could
put you in touch with several.  (Long story)


>And why exactly do you think Jesus had a human mother, but
>not a human father?  (Aside from biological reasons, of course.)
>Scott

Scott, this is a topic that I will be happy to discuss with you in
email, with copies to anyone who happens to be interested. 
But not here.  This isn't the place.  There is one thing I will state
in advance -- I do not DEBATE spiritual matters.  If you ask me what I
believe, I will tell you.  If you ask, I will tell you why.  But if
you are asking me this question for the purpose of "proving" me wrong,
(which is admittedly not your style from what I've seen) let's not
even start.  Hokay?



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