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In git.announce sol <solomon@angband.org> alleged:
-> In git.general jsc3@dontspamme.havoc.gtf.gatech.edu wrote:
->> In git.announce sol <solomon@angband.org> alleged:
->> -> In git.general Brandon Berg <gte125h@prism.gatech.edu> wrote:
->> ->> sol <solomon@angband.org> wrote in message
->> ->> news:8d57f5$b8r$1@news-int.gatech.edu...

->> -> I think you overestimate the value of anarchy.  ;)

->> I think you underestimate the threat of government.  I am by no means
->> an anarchist, but I also by no means believe the government is on *MY*
->> side or looking out for *MY* best interests.  Maybe they are working
->> for the common good, but from what I see, it seems more likely they
->> are working to keep themselves in their positions of power and increase
->> the power those positions wield, usually at my expense in one form
->> or fashion.

-> They try not to do it at your expense.

They do?  Whatever for?

-> After all, they need your vote.

They do?  If they can get enough people to vote for them they don't need
me.  I got married this year and it cost me $700 bucks in taxes.  Just
for being married.  Hmm.  So the government obviously does not support
the institution of marriage.  They say the average American is paying
less than 10% in taxes (that's BS - it is just income taxes, there are
SO many more taxes besides income taxes - but I digress).  I can assure
you that I pay MUCH more than that.  This social security nonsense -
if the government gave ME that 15% of my salary that they require
(7.5% from me, 7.5% from my employer, but make no mistake, it is
based on my salary) to invest, even just at 5 or 6% annually, when
I retired my income would probably increase just from the profit on
those investments.  The government sure won't give me any deal like
that.  And the government intentionally hides this from us, overall.
Don't tax the people, we'll tax those greedy corporations instead.
Where do you think those corporations get their money - from the
consumers, of course.  Oh, but we only tax the profits of those
greedy corporations - again, where do these profits come from - from
the money that the corporations collect from the consumers.  Any taxes
paid by any corporation are ultimately paid by the consumers, pure and
simple.  And I get very little benefit from this directly, much of the
tax money collected from me (including social security) is distributed
to other people.  Sure they build some roads and such, but in general
I don't think I get much for what I pay.

-> That's the only thing we can count on.  They will, of course, scheme and
-> plot and manipulate in order to keep power.  It's natural and expected.
-> But they also need our votes, so they have to try to make us happy.  

Or deceive us, or plot to use a simple minded majority to stay in power
and allow them to collect money by force from folks like me who actually
make money by doing something useful.

->> ->> majority of gun owners (especially the ones who give their children guns
->> ->> at young ages) are responsible, intelligent people who understand the
->> ->> danger which guns can pose in the hands of those who do not know how to
->> ->> use them. This is reflected in the attitude and behavior of their
->> ->> children with regard to guns.

->> -> I would say that the majority of _legal_ gun owners are responsible,
->> -> yes.  I do not believe that the average person, however, is intelligent
->> -> enough to properly teach and monitor their child with respect to
->> -> handguns.  

->> I don't believe the average person is intelligent enough to quit watching
->> TV and do something useful with their life.  I think TV should be banned,
->> and computer games too.

-> I don't believe the average american is intelligent enough to figure out
-> which button turns the TV off!

So we should ban it, right?  And most Americans can't drive worth shit,
and they are much more of a danger to me than an eight year old with
a gun, so let's ban private ownership of motorized vehicles as well.
After all, think of the lives we would save.  We could have only public
transportation piloted by government certified public transportation
pilots - that will improve things (eyes roll back in head)...

-- 
John Cronin