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Article #60Re: Why does the bottom of our canoe "ripple" ?
From: Al Rolle
Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 00:00
Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 00:00
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Molded boats (abs,discovery) are very flexible and exhibit these symptoms. We have an old town Tripper which is made out of very thick abs and it has very noticeable rippling when not carrying gear. When loaded with gear, it maintains it's hull shape reasonably well. The effect will increase with use. Based on experience with a Mad River Explorer, you'll have the same affect with Kevlar as Kevlar is also very flexible unless stiffened with a foam or balsa layer of some type. It won't be as pronounced as with the molded boats, but it will be noticeable after significant use. I don't care for foam stiffened hulls due to delamination risk when impacting rocks. Most are built too lightly for my use. However, one exception is the 17' Old Town Kevlar Canadienne which uses a marine balsa core. It's very heavily built. With wood rails, ours weighs 72 lbs. It has a significantly arched bottom (cross section) which maintains it's shape perfectly loaded or unloaded. Unfortunately, this classic design is now available only from select dealers at inflated prices. My only familiarity with fiberglass is a 15' 8" Wenonah Rondezvouse solo boat. It has the heavier Wenonah construction (55 lbs) , no core, and it too is perfectly rigid loaded or unloaded. It too has a significantly arched hull (as opposed to flat) and a foam filled center rib running the length of the boat. Al saskia wrote in message <7glhnd$297$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>... > I emailed this (email below) to OT, (2 weeks ago), but haven't gotten a >reply. I was wondering if anyone here knows what this "rippling" is caused >by. (Next year we are moving on to a Bell Northwoods, probably in Kevlar.) >But this year we have one last "Disco" trip, and I waste endless hours >"wondering" about the significance of this..if any. > >""I have used the Discovery 17'4'' for the past 3 years (since we bought it in >1995) on several multi-week canoe trips on large lakes in northern Canada >(i.e. relatively heavily laden with 2 paddlers ,combined weight about >300lbs, and approx 290 lbs of gear). There is plenty of freeboard. >Invariably I am the stern paddler....frequently I have noticed a "rippling" >(from mid boat to stern seat) effect in the canoe bottom while paddling in >light swells..it is VERY pronounced however when gliding over submerged >rocks. > >Does this represent a weakness in the molding of the canoe? I have not >noticed the same effect in the bow end ( or even forward of the mid >section.) It has not been a problem in our use of the canoe ( about 100 >paddling days), but it is rather disconcerting. > >Can you explain this?"" > >Thanks. > >ridem@msn.com > >Rich Dempsey > >-----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- >http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 10b0a9,a420b579ed84f4a X-Google-Attributes: gid10b0a9,public From: "Al Rolle" <al.rolle@worldnet.att.net> Subject: Re: Why does the bottom of our canoe "ripple" ? Date: 1999/05/04 Message-ID: <7gms09$929$1@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net> X-Deja-AN: 473904418 References: <7glhnd$297$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net 925823817 9289 12.77.134.218 (4 May 1999 13:16:57 GMT) Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services NNTP-Posting-Date: 4 May 1999 13:16:57 GMT Newsgroups: git.ce.concrete.canoe