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Re: AUTHOR EVENT

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From: Gary James
Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 00:00
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Braybrook wrote:
> 
> "Gary James" <cnjames@homemail.com> wrote in message
> news:39F338CF.EAC947DB@homemail.com...
> |
> |
> | Braybrook wrote:
> | >
> | > "Gary James" <cnjames@homemail.com> wrote in message
> | > news:39F3237A.8D53955@homemail.com...
> | > |
> | > |
> | > | Lady Galadriel wrote:
> | > | >
> | > | > Why did Gary James say in git.general:
> | > | > ) Well, it does seem that certain people are more prone to violence
> than
> | > | > ) others.  I would say among the British it would be Irish.  And among
> | > | > ) Americans it appears to be Africans.
> | > | >
> | > | > (snicker)
> | > | >
> | > | > Now look at what those two groups have in common, shall we?  In the
> US,
> | > | > African American Black People of Color have been traditionally
> supressed,
> | > | > condescended to, assumed to be less intelligent, victims of prejudice,
> and
> | > | > generally treated unfairly.  More recently some people have been
> working
> | > | > on that, but there are still large segments of the population who
> believe
> | > | > the stereotypes and act accordingly.
> | > | >
> | > | > In the UK/Ireland...there is hate, general religious
> difference/enmity,
> | > | > suppression, prejudice... Gee.  It seems to me that a group of people
> who
> | > | > are suppressed might get violent.  Some of them anyway.  Some of them
> | > | > might try peaceful protest, but without a STRONG, visible leader, you
> | > | > don't get much of anywhere.
> | > | >
> | > | > So fuck you, sideways, with a rusty chainsaw, with acid
> | > | > dispensers.  Believing and propagating a stereotype (that any
> particular
> | > | > group of people is worlwide likely to be "more violent" than any
> | > | > other) is one of the most revolting concepts.
> | > | >
> | > | > -gzb
> | > | > --
> | > | >         "If you don't mind my expressin' my feelin's, Mr. Scott, I'll
> make
> | > | > free to say that you're seventeen kinds of a fool an' all of 'em
> | > | > different, and then some."
> | > | >                                 -from Jack London's _White_Fang_
> | > |
> | > |
> | > | With all due respect, blacks committed 53.4 % of murders in US in 1998.
> | > | Being they represent about 12 % of the population I think this figure
> | > | cannot be ignored except by the more ignorant.    And those who prefer
> | > | Political Correctness to truth,   which I realize appears to be a small
> | > | amjority.   But their ranks are dwindling.
> | > |
> | > | http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0004896.html
> | >
> | > That table does not  show that 53.4% of murders were committed by blacks
> in
> | > 1998. It shows that 53.4% of arrests (not convictions) for murder in 1998
> were
> | > of black suspects, it also does not quote a figure for the percentage of
> | > murders where no one was arrested.
> | >
> | > | And here is how the murders were committed in 1998.
> | > |
> | > | http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0778269.html
> | > |
> | > | GJ
> |
> |
> | I assume you have a theory that they were all released with the apologies
> | of the court when it was found they were all the innocent victims of
> | racial profiling,  and that gun in their hand was just a coincidence ?
> |
> | And you further assume that the rest of the victims had to have been
> | committed by the pastors of the local white Baptist churches ?
> |
> | Nice pat solution but it doesn't stand up to the reality of the subject.
> |
> | GJ
> 
> No, I was just suggesting if you are going to provide a reference that you
> should ensure it actually reflects the point you are trying to prove. The fact
> is the data you provided in that link did not prove that 53.4% of murders in
> 1998 were committed by blacks. I would suggest you actually review the data in
> the FBI Uniform Crime Reports and restrict your comments to what is actually
> shown in those reports.

This was the only one I could find.  I'm not usually real big on
statistics.  As you no doubt no,  they will usually say anything if
tortured enough :)  But there was no deception.  The page clearly says
"arrests" above the list.  

Gary
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From: Gary James <cnjames@homemail.com>
Subject: Re: AUTHOR EVENT
Date: 2000/10/22
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