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 In <33686413.7132BB96@clark.net> klaatu <klaatu@clark.net> writes: 

> Michael T Shinn wrote:
>> 
>> John M Atkinson (jatkinso@ANTISPAMgmu.edu) wrote:
>> : If you want to argue that accepting Federal money makes a
>> : part-time force into a standing army, be my guest.
>> 
>> We're just going to have to agree to disagree on this one.  For
>> me at least, the one who signs the checks is the boss.  And a
>> Federally funded standing is not my definition of a militia.
>> Thats my definition of an army.
>> 
>> : % Aha - so its an army now?  Sure there not in the same militia?
>> : % (Forget it, you made my point)
>> 
>> : Negative.   It is a Reserve of the United States Army _and_ a
>> : category of Militia.  That's what dual role is.
>> 
>> The Guard is not the Reserve.  Its a standing army, be it a
>> federal army or a state army - but its still an army.
>
> Sorry, but the Guard is not full-time. That makes it a Reserve,
> and not a full-time Army.

   In that case, the next time they call you up to report to
 muster, just tell 'em "Hey; I'm not 'Full-Time' and it's not
 YOUR time!"
   You'll just LOVE Fort Leavenworth. <g> ;-)

> Actually, one of the functions of any militia would be the
> organizational aspects, even though for the unorganized militia,
> those organizational aspects are pretty much limited by "militia
> philosophy" to a particular county or neighborhood. The National
> Guard was and is the Organized Militia of a State. I am somewhat
> worried by the fact that it (along with the Coast Guard) is the
> primary source for rapid-mobilization personnel in times of war;
> I'd feel better if the National Guard/Coast Guard was the primary
> source only for in-country mobilization needs and not the first to
> be shipped out. _That_ aspect of the increasing Federalization of
> the NG/CG has me very worried indeed.

   If it has the word "National" in its name, it's Federal; just
 "organized" within the individual State (remember "Perpich?").
   "National" can't be "the militia" of the 2nd Amnd., IMHO.

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