🚀 go-pugleaf

: %: And the annual civil disturbance training is mandated for a reason.  And the
: %: reason I got told was that when civil authorities loose control of an area, 
: %: they call for National Guard backup.  Are you going to suggest that's not 
: %: what would happen in case of armed rebellion?
: %
: %Not at all, but whos to say the armed rebellion wouldn't be against a
: %tyrannical federal government?  Its not like history isn't full of such 
: %things happening.  But if you recall your CD training you don't have
: %police powers - you defer to the LOCAL authorities.  Only in extreme cases
: %of martial law do you have the latitude to not defer, and even then you
: %are constatly operating under the constraint of: These are AMERICAN
: %CITIZENS NOT THE ENEMY.  

: Right-after we take them down, we hand the off to the local cops to arrest.
: We're still the ones moving in with riot batons, and selected marksmen behind to
: take down anyone waving a firearm.

Obviously you've never particpated in a CD operation.  Its been a VERY
long time since the Locals called on the Guard to do the bulk of the CD
work.  In every recent case, it was all 100% support duty.  No riot batons
and DEFINITELY NO marksmanship.

: %I have no doubts where the US Military will take sides, if the Oath we all
: %took is any indicator, we should be standing with the constitution FIRST.
: %So if that armed insurrection were to overthrow a government which was
: %trashing the constitution, I hope it would be lead by the defenders of
: %that piece of paper.  

: First you have to demonstrate that the Federal Government is violating the
: Constitution.  Second you have to demonstrate that you have a prayer of winning.

I would think that an armed revolt and successful overthrow of any
government is all the proof you need.  But feel free to hold all the tests
you think necessary.

M. Shinn
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