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Re: Interview with Political Prisoner Charles Manson

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From: Christian Smith
Date: Sun, 20 Apr 1997 00:00
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In article <5jdfnl$lju@portal.gmu.edu>, mshinn@osf1.gmu.edu (Michael T
Shinn) wrote:

>Carolyn and Mike Bennett (hillary@erinet.com) wrote:
>: > Brought to you by the George Mason Society as part of our Free Speech
>: > Project
>
>: How many people were killed as a result of things this "political 
>: prisoner" said and did?
>
>Too many.  
>
>(Note this is part of our Free Speech project.  The GMS is
>*not* making the argument that Manson was a political prisoner, our guests
>are - as we always invite skeptics and critics of anyone we invite,
>generally we actively solicit a counter point when possible.)

Then you need to take a few more communications courses.  The statement
you posted made an explicit claim that Manson was a "political prisoner"
and you signed the message with your GMS affiliation and title (making an
implicit statement that you were presenting the views of the GMS).

As for you statement that:

>The argument has always been made by people like you that ideas should be
>presented with a *name* attached to them (I guess so you can complain
>to my boss or something if you don't like my ideas) and in the marketplace
>of ideas. So, we the GMS, and namely me as its President stepped up to the
>plate to present ideas - so we can let the marketplace decide if these
>ideas are logical and rational.

First off, you know next to nothing about me or my beliefs.  Let me give
you a little background for what it's worth.  I am both a social and
economic liberal.  I strongly support groups such as the EFF and the
ACLU.  My educational background includes both Political Science and
Mathematics.  I am a husband and father.  I oppose censorship in any form
including such modern examples as the CDA.  And I'll call bullshit
bullshit when I hear it.

As for complaining to your boss, why would I?  I'd rather attack your (and
your organization's) credibility (however trite Ryan may feel that word is
coming from me) right here in a public place.  But apparently GMS doesn't
support the notion of mass murderer == political prisoner.  Instead (much
like the writers for the Broadside) you simply need to learn how to
communicate in the written language.

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From: csmith@gmu.edu (Christian Smith)
Subject: Re: Interview with Political Prisoner Charles Manson
Date: 1997/04/20
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