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On Wed, 07 May 1997 12:17:34 GMT, jatkinso@ANTISPAMgmu.edu (John M
Atkinson) wrote:

>Thus Spake cmort@nwohio.com (Chris Morton):
>
>
>%>%The question isn't whether I'm offering to start one, it's whether or
>%>%not such a massacre is just cause for starting one.
>%>
>%>OK, no.  I don't believe one (or even several) incidents of troops getting out
>%>of hand justifies armed revolt.  And if you look at the writings of the time
>%>(Thomas Paine, especially) the Boston Massacre is almost never mentioned-the
>%>causes for rebellion can be more accurately traced to a long-term British
>policy
>%>of denying the colonists the inherent human right to self-determination.  
>%
>%Do you believe ANY degree of violence by government against citizens
>%justifies revolt?
>
>Yes.  However I have to be convinced it's a long-term policy (In other words,
>cite some instances from before Clinton's election and evidence it will continue
>after the next presidential election).  I also have to be convinced that there
>is no other possibility of peaceful resolution.  Civil War is one of the worst
>fates to befall a great nation.

No sweat.  The BATF was created under Nixon.  It's been doing exactly
the same things from the Kenyon Ballew case, through the Weaver case
under Bush, to the Waco case under Clinton.  There isn't even the
slightest indication that they plan to change.

Then there's the FBI and it's 70 year or more record of antics.

Then there's the Japanese internment.

I don't think we're ready for a revolution YET, but given the Clinton
administration's incessant attacks on civil liberties, we're
definitely heading that way.

As for civil wars, Japan would have been a hell of a lot better of
with a Civil War in 1938 than what it got instead.

>
>%>%"Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice, and moderation in pursuit
>%>%of justice is no virtue." 
>%>
>%>I can't recall who said that.  Was it Barry "Nuke North Vietnam" Goldwater or
>%>the cross-dressing FBI chief who though Martin Luther King was communist?
>%
>%Speaking of which, what level of abuse committed by J. Edgar Hoover do
>%you think would have been appropriate?
>
>I think that he went overboard in many ways.  However Hoover on his worst, most
>paranoid day was still no excuse to revolt.

How about the Japanese internment?

Did the Japanese-Americans have a duty to go into those racial
concentration camps?



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