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Article #87Re: National Rifle Association (NRA) On Campus!
From: Chris Morton
Date: Tue, 06 May 1997 00:00
Date: Tue, 06 May 1997 00:00
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On Mon, 05 May 1997 21:35:05 GMT, jatkinso@ANTISPAMgmu.edu (John M Atkinson) wrote: >Thus Spake klaatu <klaatu@clark.net>: > > >%> I'm not familliar with conspiracy-nut right-wing bullshit. What's RICO?? >% >%"Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations." It's a Federal law >%designed to make it easier to break unions by alleging involvement with >%organized crime. Actually it has served as a powerful wedge into those >%unions which _are_ racketeer-influenced. But it's also potentially >%usable against about anyone for anything. It's a sort of "one bad apple >%spoils the whole bunch" and my admittedly hazy understanding of this is >%that one criminal in a targeted organization can be used to take out the >%entire organization. For instance, one felony conviction of one >%high-level NORML member could be used as an excuse to have unlimited >%wiretappings on _all_ NORML members. > >Damn, but it sucks when you hire felons. . . :) What country do YOU live in? In the United States, mere MEMBERSHIP in an organization is not a crime, much less a felony. > >%Your ignorance of the existence of this law is astounding, but hardly >%moreso than your immediate categorization of someone else's awareness of >%a far-reaching Federal Law as "conspiracy-nut right-wing bullshit". > >Take a look at the context. I had absolutely no idea what the acronym referred >to, but when a couple of people pointed out the full name, I recalled it. My >point is that the conspiracy-nut community has it's jargon and acronyms, and I >got a legitemate law confused with them. Hell, OWG threw me for a loop the >first time I saw it on usenet. > >%The point is that those "fanatics" have the same rights as anyone. Thus, >%anyone taking _you_ down wouldn't be just cause for a revolt. Or anyone >%taking down an entire neighborhood because it was "crime-riddled" by the >%same logic would not be cause for a revolt. Nor would, by extension of >%this logic, would be the elimination of an entire class, ethnic group, >%or race. >% >%This is called a "slippery slope argument" (or failure to notice that > >No, this is called reducto ad absurdum. If I don't think that taking down the >Wacko from Waco is just cause for armed rebellion, I'm in favor of ethnically >based genocide and therefore a racist, and probably a Nazi? Check your own >caffine intake. I thought hurling 'racist' in lieu of argument was a liberal >tactic. Scale does make a difference. If we resorted to shooting up the local >law enforcement every time someone made a mistake, or got too excited, or just >came up with a phemomenally stupid policy, we'd be in a constant state of >anarchy. Then your argument is that THEY get to shoot US up, but we have to just sit and take it? -- Ask suuty@hotmail.com (Hugh Donald Green) why he says things like: > "Did you hear the one about the dirty jew, the welfare queen, and >the single mother?" - suuty@hotmail.com (Hugh Donald Green)
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 144807,2d4d4eb316566ec6 X-Google-Attributes: gid144807,public X-Google-Thread: fb785,2d4d4eb316566ec6 X-Google-Attributes: gidfb785,public X-Google-Thread: 1044e7,2d4d4eb316566ec6 X-Google-Attributes: gid1044e7,public X-Google-Thread: 101049,2d4d4eb316566ec6 X-Google-Attributes: gid101049,public From: cmort@nwohio.com (Chris Morton) Subject: Re: National Rifle Association (NRA) On Campus! Date: 1997/05/06 Message-ID: <3371b871.42787468@snews.zippo.com> X-Deja-AN: 239945219 References: <5k2tak$1pa@portal.gmu.edu> <33679508.25019758@news.gmu.edu> <33687934.70466D1E@clark.net> <33688238.2031726@news.gmu.edu> <5kcqvs$6es@wanda.vf.pond.com> <336d3d83.4878628@news.gmu.edu> <336E3E57.5325490B@clark.net> <336e50f0.10072331@news.gmu.edu> Organization: Weigle Defense Force Newsgroups: gmu.local,dc.general,va.general,talk.politics.guns