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Article #1674Re: GNU Chess for Palms
From: Linares
Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 08:37
Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 08:37
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--------------DE14D1C5F42F897680CC474B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tim Mann wrote: > Actually, I think xboard is entitled to be called GNU software. It's > copyrighted by the Free Software Foundation and distributed on > ftp.gnu.org (as well as from my web page). > > I should probably set up a Savannah project for it, especially since > I've been working on it so little that I've become a bottleneck. I > have some contributions from people that I've been sitting on for > months and haven't even tried out. :-( > > -- > Tim Mann usenet@tim-mann.org http://www.tim-mann.org/ Hi Tim, Simon!! Thanks a lot for your answers. I agree completely with you Simon. Thanks, indeed for your explanations. However, there is something I do not understand well: --- Since GNU is a project to build a free operating system and supply it with applications, I doubt a specific port to a non-free OS would qualify. --- You are right Simon, GNU is a project to build a free operating system but (as a GNU volunteer) I have always deeply believed that the idea behind is to cooperate to the difussion of computing science, thus, making source code availables. There are, in fact, several portings of GNU software to non-commercial platforms like Micro$oft (for example, my GNU package ---currently under evaluation---, SAL that you can find in savannah has been tested under Micro & Soft as well, though no support is offered there!, another example is the original Emacs) I agree, however, with the fact that the name may not be reused. Among other reasons, the ones you mention and the fact that in PalmOS it would never be the same of course! :) :) :) :) Then, to avoid confussing, I am talking of Tim's work, i.e., the xboard interface. I am not proposing to program a chess player for PalmOS, but a chess interface that could connect with Tim's xboard. I would write both pieces of software: 1. The chess interface itself for PalmOS 3.5 and higher (current version is 4.0). 2. The conduit for syncronizing games played in the PalmOS with pgn files readable by xboard and to download games directly from the xboard to the PalmOS interface. However, pgn files should be downloadable as well directly to the PalmOS. The idea is not so much to make something general (though this is one of the targets I would like to achieve) but to allow xboard to use it as well. So, xboard would be the first chess interface (for my knowledge) with such an option. Now, think of mail chess players who can download their games to the Palm. Think of their moves there, make their annotations, everything and then to download it to the xboard and send the e-mail. Or chess students who can download lessons or positions to study. I think this would not be much work for Tim or people maintaining xboard. Another question, could I try to reuse the same pieces used in xboard? (though they should be dramatically reduced! :) thank you very much! -- Carlos Linares Lopez Ground Systems Engineering Division Payload Data Segment ESRIN - European Space Agency 00044 Frascati Italy +39 06 94 180 527 --------------DE14D1C5F42F897680CC474B Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html> Tim Mann wrote: <blockquote TYPE=CITE>Actually, I think xboard is entitled to be called GNU software. It's <br>copyrighted by the Free Software Foundation and distributed on <br>ftp.gnu.org (as well as from my web page). <p>I should probably set up a Savannah project for it, especially since <br>I've been working on it so little that I've become a bottleneck. I <br>have some contributions from people that I've been sitting on for <br>months and haven't even tried out. :-( <p>-- <br>Tim Mann usenet@tim-mann.org <a href="http://www.tim-mann.org/">http://www.tim-mann.org/</a></blockquote> Hi Tim, Simon!! <p>Thanks a lot for your answers. I agree completely with you Simon. Thanks, <br>indeed for your explanations. However, there is something I do not understand <br>well: <p>--- <br>Since GNU is a project to build a <br>free operating system and supply it with applications, I doubt a <br>specific port to a non-free OS would qualify. <br>--- <p>You are right Simon, GNU is a project to build a free operating system but <br>(as a GNU volunteer) I have always deeply believed that the idea behind <br>is to cooperate to the difussion of computing science, thus, making source <br>code availables. There are, in fact, several portings of GNU software to <br>non-commercial platforms like Micro$oft (for example, my GNU package <br>---currently under evaluation---, SAL that you can find in savannah <br>has been tested under Micro & Soft as well, though no support is offered <br>there!, another example is the original Emacs) <p>I agree, however, with the fact that the name may not be reused. Among <br>other reasons, the ones you mention and the fact that in PalmOS it would <br>never be the same of course! :) :) :) :) <p>Then, to avoid confussing, I am talking of Tim's work, i.e., the xboard <br>interface. I am not proposing to program a chess player for PalmOS, but a <br>chess interface that could connect with Tim's xboard. I would write both <br>pieces of software: <p>1. The chess interface itself for PalmOS 3.5 and higher (current version <br>is 4.0). <br>2. The conduit for syncronizing games played in the PalmOS with pgn files <br>readable by xboard and to download games directly from the xboard to the <br>PalmOS interface. However, pgn files should be downloadable as well directly <br>to the PalmOS. <p>The idea is not so much to make something general (though this is one of <br>the targets I would like to achieve) but to allow xboard to use it as well. <br>So, xboard would be the first chess interface (for my knowledge) with such <br>an option. <p>Now, think of mail chess players who can download their games to the <br>Palm. Think of their moves there, make their annotations, everything and then <br>to download it to the xboard and send the e-mail. Or chess students who <br>can download lessons or positions to study. <p>I think this would not be much work for Tim or people maintaining xboard. <p>Another question, could I try to reuse the same pieces used in xboard? (though <br>they should be dramatically reduced! :) <p>thank you very much! <br> <pre>-- Carlos Linares Lopez Ground Systems Engineering Division Payload Data Segment ESRIN - European Space Agency 00044 Frascati Italy +39 06 94 180 527</pre> </html> --------------DE14D1C5F42F897680CC474B--
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 10d71d,8e992b39d53a0d18 X-Google-Attributes: gid10d71d,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-05-31 01:47:17 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news.esoc.esa.de!not-for-mail From: Linares <Carlos.Linares.Lopez@esa.int> Newsgroups: gnu.chess Subject: Re: GNU Chess for Palms Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 08:37:43 +0000 Organization: ESA/ESOC - European Space Operations Centre Lines: 196 Message-ID: <3CF73657.33A7B689@esa.int> References: <3CF20D31.3280AE63@esa.int> <873cwdzpbo.fsf@fullp.ath.cx> <3CF48623.D545E261@esa.int> <3CF4B14C.E12D1F77@wretched.demon.co.uk> <slrnafdir1.vlu.usenet@giga.mumblefrotz.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lequ.esrin.esa.it Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------DE14D1C5F42F897680CC474B" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.8 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en