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Re: GNU Chess for Palms

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From: Linares
Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 08:37
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Tim Mann wrote:

> Actually, I think xboard is entitled to be called GNU software.  It's
> copyrighted by the Free Software Foundation and distributed on
> ftp.gnu.org (as well as from my web page).
>
> I should probably set up a Savannah project for it, especially since
> I've been working on it so little that I've become a bottleneck.  I
> have some contributions from people that I've been sitting on for
> months and haven't even tried out.  :-(
>
> --
> Tim Mann  usenet@tim-mann.org  http://www.tim-mann.org/

Hi Tim, Simon!!

Thanks a lot for your answers. I agree completely with you Simon.
Thanks,
indeed for your explanations. However, there is something I do not
understand
well:

---
Since GNU is a project to build a
free operating system and supply it with applications, I doubt a
specific port to a non-free OS would qualify.
---

You are right Simon, GNU is a project to build a free operating system
but
(as a GNU volunteer) I have always deeply believed that the idea behind
is to cooperate to the difussion of computing science, thus, making
source
code availables. There are, in fact, several portings of GNU software to

non-commercial platforms like Micro$oft (for example, my GNU package
---currently under evaluation---, SAL that you can find in savannah
has been tested under Micro & Soft as well, though no support is offered

there!, another example is the original Emacs)

I agree, however, with the fact that the name may not be reused. Among
other reasons, the ones you mention and the fact that in PalmOS it would

never be the same of course! :) :) :) :)

Then, to avoid confussing, I am talking of Tim's work, i.e., the xboard
interface. I am not proposing to program a chess player for PalmOS, but
a
chess interface that could connect with Tim's xboard. I would write both

pieces of software:

1. The chess interface itself for PalmOS 3.5 and higher (current version

is 4.0).
2. The conduit for syncronizing games played in the PalmOS with pgn
files
readable by xboard and to download games directly from the xboard to the

PalmOS interface. However, pgn files should be downloadable as well
directly
to the PalmOS.

The idea is not so much to make something general (though this is one of

the targets I would like to achieve) but to allow xboard to use it as
well.
So, xboard would be the first chess interface (for my knowledge) with
such
an option.

Now, think of mail chess players who can download their games to the
Palm. Think of their moves there, make their annotations, everything and
then
to download it to the xboard and send the e-mail. Or chess students who
can download lessons or positions to study.

I think this would not be much work for Tim or people maintaining
xboard.

Another question, could I try to reuse the same pieces used in xboard?
(though
they should be dramatically reduced! :)

thank you very much!


--
Carlos Linares Lopez
Ground Systems Engineering Division
Payload Data Segment
ESRIN - European Space Agency
00044 Frascati
Italy

+39 06 94 180 527



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Tim Mann wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>Actually, I think xboard is entitled to be called
GNU software.&nbsp; It's
<br>copyrighted by the Free Software Foundation and distributed on
<br>ftp.gnu.org (as well as from my web page).
<p>I should probably set up a Savannah project for it, especially since
<br>I've been working on it so little that I've become a bottleneck.&nbsp;
I
<br>have some contributions from people that I've been sitting on for
<br>months and haven't even tried out.&nbsp; :-(
<p>--
<br>Tim Mann&nbsp; usenet@tim-mann.org&nbsp; <a href="http://www.tim-mann.org/">http://www.tim-mann.org/</a></blockquote>
Hi Tim, Simon!!
<p>Thanks a lot for your answers. I agree completely with you Simon. Thanks,
<br>indeed for your explanations. However, there is something I do not
understand
<br>well:
<p>---
<br>Since GNU is a project to build a
<br>free operating system and supply it with applications, I doubt a
<br>specific port to a non-free OS would qualify.
<br>---
<p>You are right Simon, GNU is a project to build a free operating system
but
<br>(as a GNU volunteer) I have always deeply believed that the idea behind
<br>is to cooperate to the difussion of computing science, thus, making
source
<br>code availables. There are, in fact, several portings of GNU software
to
<br>non-commercial platforms like Micro$oft (for example, my GNU package
<br>---currently under evaluation---, SAL that you can find in savannah
<br>has been tested under Micro &amp; Soft as well, though no support is
offered
<br>there!, another example is the original Emacs)
<p>I agree, however, with the fact that the name may not be reused. Among
<br>other reasons, the ones you mention and the fact that in PalmOS it
would
<br>never be the same of course!&nbsp;:)&nbsp;:)&nbsp;:)&nbsp;:)
<p>Then, to avoid confussing, I am talking of Tim's work, i.e., the xboard
<br>interface. I am not proposing to program a chess player for PalmOS,
but a
<br>chess interface that could connect with Tim's xboard. I would write
both
<br>pieces of software:
<p>1. The chess interface itself for PalmOS 3.5 and higher (current version
<br>is 4.0).
<br>2. The conduit for syncronizing games played in the PalmOS with pgn
files
<br>readable by xboard and to download games directly from the xboard to
the
<br>PalmOS interface. However, pgn files should be downloadable as well
directly
<br>to the PalmOS.
<p>The idea is not so much to make something general (though this is one
of
<br>the targets I would like to achieve) but to allow xboard to use it
as well.
<br>So, xboard would be the first chess interface (for my knowledge) with
such
<br>an option.
<p>Now, think of mail chess players who can download their games to the
<br>Palm. Think of their moves there, make their annotations, everything
and then
<br>to download it to the xboard and send the e-mail. Or chess students
who
<br>can download lessons or positions to study.
<p>I think this would not be much work for Tim or people maintaining xboard.
<p>Another question, could I try to reuse the same pieces used in xboard?
(though
<br>they should be dramatically reduced!&nbsp;:)
<p>thank you very much!
<br>&nbsp;
<pre>--&nbsp;
Carlos Linares Lopez
Ground Systems Engineering Division
Payload Data Segment
ESRIN - European Space Agency
00044 Frascati
Italy

+39 06 94 180 527</pre>
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