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Re: Strongest chess program

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From: Mike S.
Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2002 00:31
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"Charles Blair" <c-blair@uiuc.edu> schrieb:

>    Has anyone done any comparison of quality of program analysis
> of endgame studies (not including database searchers in this) or
> crucial moments from famous games?

There are many test suites with such positions (most are not
endgame-specific though; some are splitted in thematic parts):

http://www.andreas-schwartmann.de/chess.html#Test

Except that, I don't know other good overview pages of testsuite
*results*; hopefully search machines can find some more.

When reading results, I recommend to focus on the pure solving *times*
first (the various formulas are not always convincing); of course all of
that it is hardware-dependant too.

It is known, that testsuite results usually do not correlate very good
with performance relations in practical games though. Some tests may
correlate better than others... but it's obvious that many game-related
abilities are difficult to test in a test suite (i.e. time consumption
during a game, opening book, also positional things are difficult to
test). In addition to that, I read constantly that test positions are
proven to be wrong, IOW. the intended solutions turn out to be doubtful
sometimes.

Regards,
M.Scheidl
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From: "Mike S." <Michael.Scheidl@lion.cc>
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Subject: Re: Strongest chess program
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 01:31:55 +0100
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