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Re: xboard and WinBoard 4.2.4 released

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From: Alberich
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 21:40
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In article <slrna1dt4f.r9g.usenet@giga.mumblefrotz.org>, usenet@tim-
mann.org says...
> In article <MPG.168084f7275dc8dc98988c@news.cyburban.com>, Alberich wrote:
> > Been using Winboard for a while now. Why isn't there ...
> > You'd think that option should be there. 
> > 
> > ... is terrible. ...  ?! You gotta do better here.
> > 
> > add another... 
> > ... (Hint: I can do this in Fritz)  
> > take out the ...
> > 
> > ... I'd like to see you implement 
> > ... C'mon, I know you can implement that. Just add a few more lines of code 
> > to the program.
> > 
> > ...?! C,mon, this can be better! I should be able to ... 
> > 
> > No ability to ... ?! Get real. Implement that feature, fast.
> 
> Would you like fries with that, sir?  May I polish your shoes too?
> 
> 

So, I hit a nerve, huh? My accurate assessments of the deficiences of 
Winboard are pretty on the nose, I'm sorry to say. And yes, maybe you can 
send me fries with that. But I don't need you to polish my shoes, just 
improve Winboard to make it the BEST product on the web out there. 

It's these little things that annoy me because they're the kind of "why 
didn't they include that?" kind of gripe about the program. To your 
credit, Winboard is very stable, much more than other software that I've 
seen out there like, well, I won't embarrass other chess software program 
titles out there if only because they're not as good as Winboard is. 

But I will name a competitor that's catching up fast. Have you heard of 
ChessPad? Check it out. It's got SOME of the features I'd like to see you 
implement in Winboard. But once you include the features I see in 
ChessPad, I'll switch over to Winboard entirely. Until then, I'll 
continue to carefully choose and pick my way to the right chess program 
out there to play with.

Currently, I'm waiting very patiently for my delivery of Fritz 7 on CD 
from my online chess store I visit frequently to buy chess material from. 
Can't wait for that. Now THAT'S a real Christmas present to play with. 
I'm going to enjoy that. But again, my problem with Fritz 7 is simple: 
the lack of retail chains carrying this title. I can't believe the giants 
like CompUSA or BestBuy or heck, even CircuitCity don't carry Fritz 7 in 
their game sections?! Funny thing is, they DO carry Chessmaster 8000...a 
piece of **** as ever I've seen that's totally unworthy of aspiring chess 
players and serious tournament chess club addicts.

In any case, try to take some of my suggestions about Winboard seriously. 
I didn't mean to list them in such a cynical manner, but they are 
legitimate. Just making it possible for loading multiple game index files 
simultaneously would be a nice Christmas present. But getting that 
feature will take alot of time, because I know you'll have to spend 
untold hours just testing out such a feature. So, I'll be patient and 
I'll wait til next year and hopefully by then you'll be able to address 
at least some of my concerns about the Winboard program. The black 
borders crisscrossing the chessboard squares is a no brainer thougn. That 
can be taken out very quickly, it's just a matter of redesigning the 
board bitmap files. That shouldn't take too long. 

In any case, you're doing a good job with Winboard. It's the best program 
on the web. I'm just being prickly only because I know you can do better 
with it. IT's sort of like lighting a fire under your feet to get you 
going and get the juices flowing. Besides, that's what sports 
commentators do when they write commentary articles on their favorite 
baseball, football teams. They don't spare the hurt. They expose the 
flaws so that the teams can address those concerns. And I'm doing my 
patriotic part in exposing the deficiencies in Winboard not to denegrate 
the program, but to force you to find ways to improve it. I'm only trying 
to help.
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From: Alberich <someone@somewhere.com>
Newsgroups: gnu.chess
Subject: Re: xboard and WinBoard 4.2.4 released
Date: 12 Dec 2001 15:40:07 -0600
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