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Re: CHESS CHEATERS: PROGSTERS AND HACKERS!!!

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From: Brendan O'Connell
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 00:00
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why do people cheat on chess servers anyway?

What do they gain ?



In article <39B43363.6EC85BC2@n2mail.com>,
  Yaridovich <yaridovich@n2mail.com> wrote:
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> There is not 1 minute when I come into  Yahoo! Games - Chess and not
see
> someone either
> using a prog or hacking into the server. (If they're using a prog,
> they'll win! [obviously, duh!!?!?!] and
> then they'll just say that shit about "No, I don't use a prog- its
just
> BOOKS, BOOKS,
> BOOKS!?!?". Some might try reverse-psychology on you: they might
> actually 'admit' to using a prog
> in an attempt to make u think.... "hmmm... maybe they're NOT a prog
> user, cause..... why would
> he/she admit it......." Either way you can tell if they're using a
prog
> for 2 reasons: 1) they won't ever
> play anything less than 5/5 (from 5/5 up to 25/10 i've seen) - If you
> ask them to play you in a 1/0
> blitz, they'll just complain about lag!?!? 2) they're record will show
> it!?!?- if they're 100-2, and
> they're playing in a 10/10 game, obviously they're a prog user!?!? The
> only true 100% way of
> knowing for sure that they are not a prog user is to play them in
> person!!!
> Often times, prog users won't admit using a prog, but if u ask them a
> question when its their turn, they
> won't answer immediately..... and u can often time when their moves
will
> be like clockwork.
> Prog users are reflective of people who are not confident with their
> chess game and abilities. Some
> want to win all their games and go and 'brag' to everyone, "Hey!!! I'm
a
> grandmaster- I'm
> UNDEFEATED?!?!? LOOK AT ME!??!".
>           If they're not using a prog, they're either a hacker! And do
I
> see A LOT OF THEM!!!!!!!!!- I
> once saw someone come into 1 lounge with 6 different names with the
same
> prefix of "bozo_####",
> where # is a different # (ie: bozo_1234, bozo_1233)- All of which had
> ratings off the chart from
> 2500 to 4500!!! When I viewed they're record, that was when I knew we
> either had a Kasparov, or
> a hacker! I thought Kasparov wouldn't have time to login 6 times just
to
> 'show-off' so I knew it had
> to be a hacker. I saw some chat going on. Sure enough it was the prick
> himself, talking about how he
> is so good at chess, but yet he kept declining all his invitations and
> wouldn't accept even a chat!?!?
> He was a hacker! I don't know how he did it (I think it has something
to
> do with the old
> yahoo!games server where you could sign up with "____" before your
name
> or other weird
> characters) but I'd sure like to know so I can inform yahoo of this
> error and they can fix it!
> Nevertheless, the hacker is also a low-self-esteem lame nolife loser
> along with the prog user! They
> are 2 types of low-life losers who need to be stopped! There must be a
> Javascript code being
> evolved that will come into play. I figure, they way we're moving
along
> now, it will be only a matter of
> time before these cheaters are disposed of.
>
> If you happen to have any information on where these hackers may be
> getting their info., programs,
> or hacks, PLEASE either post a  follow-up, or you may wish to email
me:
> yaridovich@n2mail.com
> ~Yaridovich
> yaridovich@n2mail.com
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> <FONT SIZE=+2>T</FONT>here is not 1 minute when I come into&nbsp;
Yahoo!
> Games - Chess and not see someone either
> <BR>using a prog or hacking into the server. (If they're using a prog,
> they'll win! [obviously, duh!!?!?!] and
> <BR>then they'll just say that shit about "No, I don't use a prog- its
> just BOOKS, BOOKS,
> <BR>BOOKS!?!?". Some might try reverse-psychology on you: they might
actually
> 'admit' to using a prog
> <BR>in an attempt to make u think.... "hmmm... maybe they're NOT a
prog
> user, cause..... why would
> <BR>he/she admit it......." Either way you can tell if they're using a
> prog for 2 reasons: 1) they won't ever
> <BR>play anything less than 5/5 (from 5/5 up to 25/10 i've seen) - If
you
> ask them to play you in a 1/0
> <BR>blitz, they'll just complain about lag!?!? 2) they're record will
show
> it!?!?- if they're 100-2, and
> <BR>they're playing in a 10/10 game, obviously they're a prog user!?!?
> The only true 100% way of
> <BR>knowing for sure that they are not a prog user is to play them in
person!!!
> <BR>Often times, prog users won't admit using a prog, but if u ask
them
> a question when its their turn, they
> <BR>won't answer immediately..... and u can often time when their
moves
> will be like clockwork.
> <BR>Prog users are reflective of people who are not confident with
their
> chess game and abilities. Some
> <BR>want to win all their games and go and 'brag' to everyone, "Hey!!!
> I'm a grandmaster- I'm
> <BR>UNDEFEATED?!?!? LOOK AT ME!??!".
> <BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; If they're
not
> using a prog, they're either a hacker! And do I see A LOT OF
THEM!!!!!!!!!-
> I
> <BR>once saw someone come into 1 lounge with 6 different names with
the
> same prefix of "bozo_####",
> <BR>where # is a different # (ie: bozo_1234, bozo_1233)- All of which
had
> ratings off the chart from
> <BR>2500 to 4500!!! When I viewed they're record, that was when I knew
> we either had a Kasparov, or
> <BR>a hacker! I thought Kasparov wouldn't have time to login 6 times
just
> to 'show-off' so I knew it had
> <BR>to be a hacker. I saw some chat going on. Sure enough it was the
prick
> himself, talking about how he
> <BR>is so good at chess, but yet he kept declining all his invitations
> and wouldn't accept even a chat!?!?
> <BR>He was a hacker! I don't know how he did it (I think it has
something
> to do with the old
> <BR>yahoo!games server where you could sign up with "____" before your
> name or other weird
> <BR>characters) but I'd sure like to know so I can inform yahoo of
this
> error and they can fix it!
> <BR>Nevertheless, the hacker is also a low-self-esteem lame nolife
loser
> along with the prog user! They
> <BR>are 2 types of low-life losers who need to be stopped! There must
be
> a Javascript code being
> <BR>evolved that will come into play. I figure, they way we're moving
along
> now, it will be only a matter of
> <BR>time before these cheaters are disposed of.
>
> <P>If you happen to have any information on where these hackers may be
> getting their info., programs,
> <BR>or hacks, <B><U>PLEASE</U></B> either post a&nbsp; follow-up, or
you
> may wish to email me: yaridovich@n2mail.com
> <BR>~Yaridovich
> <BR><A
HREF="mailto:yaridovich@n2mail.com">yaridovich@n2mail.com</A></HTML>
>
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