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Article #2342Re: Internet Chess Cheats Mentality !!
From: Fernando
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 00:00
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 00:00
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Ben Pritchard <juggling_ben@excite.com> schreef in berichtnieuws 3973d4d1@news.pcom.net... > > Fernando wrote in message <8ilntr$psh$1@nereid.worldonline.nl>... > >Nice way to point out cheaters are true slaves of their own computer. > >Their computer thinks up how and what the cheater should do, and they > >happilly oblige. And feeling happy and in charge of the situation too. > Where > >can you find them better motivated? > > > >Regards, > >Fernando > > > > > > > I think the whole problem is in the ratings. People will stray away from > real chess and end up in a contest to see who can get the highest rating. > I also think people should stop whining and consider actually learning > something new, getting better, and actually getting good enough to beat the > computer. It's not impossible, you just have to realize that the computers > that these cheaters are using are not "unbeatable." > > > Ben > > At my level of play, not "unbeatable" is a dream. (still) -- Cheating is in fact nothing else then feeling in control. Nothing feels worse then coming into a group as a woodpusher discovering you're nothing more then a woodpusher. (or a bit more) Rating is in in this view nothing more then an indication of how much control you can assert onto the game. Two things to do to get in control. The hard way, the easy way. -- I myself am "just" out of the lucky wins and "wow, that fork worked" game play. (rating of aprox 1500). Some times "nice tactical insights" gave me in the beginning the idea that I could play at a higher level, with the result of loosing 10 out of 10 games. -- The hard way is acceptance AND do something about it. (+400 points from starting point) The easy way is show that you belong where you think you should be. (=artificially desired rating) ** Rating in fact is not the problem here. It is just an indication of value. That value IS a problem. Some people don't have it, but really want to have it. (Just make a connection with money, that's a sucked dry story) Regards, Fernando
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f52e8,8e204fe69a231f29 X-Google-Attributes: gidf52e8,public X-Google-Thread: 110df2,8e204fe69a231f29 X-Google-Attributes: gid110df2,public X-Google-Thread: 1035ff,8e204fe69a231f29 X-Google-Attributes: gid1035ff,public X-Google-Thread: 1073e8,8e204fe69a231f29 X-Google-Attributes: gid1073e8,public X-Google-Thread: 10d71d,8e204fe69a231f29 X-Google-Attributes: gid10d71d,public From: "Fernando" <MijnNaam@WorldMail.NL> Subject: Re: Internet Chess Cheats Mentality !! Date: 2000/07/19 Message-ID: <8l2piq$44q$1@nereid.worldonline.nl> X-Deja-AN: 647989848 References: <kCm35.601$Nc.6062@news1.rdc1.on.wave.home.com> <8ilntr$psh$1@nereid.worldonline.nl> <3973d4d1@news.pcom.net> X-Priority: 3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@worldonline.nl X-Trace: nereid.worldonline.nl 963963290 4250 195.241.233.32 (18 Jul 2000 23:34:50 GMT) Organization: WorldOnline - The Internet Communication Company X-MSMail-Priority: Normal NNTP-Posting-Date: 18 Jul 2000 23:34:50 GMT Newsgroups: gnu.chess,rec.games.chess.analysis,rec.games.chess.computer,rec.games.chess.misc,rec.games.chess.politics