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Article #2384Re: Internet Chess Cheats Mentality !!
From: Sverre Johnsen
Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2000 00:00
Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2000 00:00
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Ertosi <deadwood1@home.com> wrote in article <H%085.8996$661.1871593@news1.rdc1.va.home.com>... > I have been thinking of joining ICC because I haven't been able to make it > to the chess club lately for face to face games. So, how bad is this > cheating problem. I would hope to be playing against humans. Not so bad really. My guess is that on ICC in at least 90% of the games you will be playing humans. Occasionally an opponent who has lost a few games in a row will fire up Fritz in the background and start playing better. And occasionally you will meet a player 2500+ who in reality is a computer. If you noplay your suspects after a few games, you will after some time meet very few computer cheaters and still have plenty of strong opponents. On FICS I suspect a higher percentage of the stronger players (2100+) is computer assisted. It could be that as much as one third of the players in this group are cheaters. But you really need only 5-10 regular opponents on your own level to have a varied menu of openings and playing styles. You should in my opinion be suspicious if a player is more than 500 points higher rated in blitz than in bullet/lightning or is very eager to pick up material even if you are starting a king's attack. You should also be suspicious if he in bullet/lightning: a) plays the first 10 moves or so without using any time at all b) is distributing his time very evenly, moving very fast even in complicated positions c) is starting to play incredibly fast under time pressure I have rather rarely met opponents like this on ICC and not too often on FICS either. But I met a lot of them when I tried Playsite and a few other 'amateur' playing sites a year ago and I believe I can spot them after a couple of games if they are not very clever. Sverre Johnsen
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f52e8,8e204fe69a231f29 X-Google-Attributes: gidf52e8,public X-Google-Thread: 110df2,8e204fe69a231f29 X-Google-Attributes: gid110df2,public X-Google-Thread: 10d71d,8e204fe69a231f29 X-Google-Attributes: gid10d71d,public X-Google-Thread: 1035ff,8e204fe69a231f29 X-Google-Attributes: gid1035ff,public From: "Sverre Johnsen" <Sverre.Johnsen@dnv.com> Subject: Re: Internet Chess Cheats Mentality !! Date: 2000/07/03 Message-ID: <01bfe4fa$910da250$da6710ac@oslpcs22> X-Deja-AN: 641842630 References: <kCm35.601$Nc.6062@news1.rdc1.on.wave.home.com> <395861ab.0@news2.tm.net.my> <8jdgj6$nb1$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <8jdtqt$8v1$1@slb3.atl.mindspring.net> <H%085.8996$661.1871593@news1.rdc1.va.home.com> X-Complaints-To: news-abuse@online.no X-Trace: news1.online.no 962634385 193.212.132.34 (Mon, 03 Jul 2000 16:26:25 MET DST) Organization: Telenor Online Public Access NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2000 16:26:25 MET DST Newsgroups: gnu.chess,rec.games.chess.analysis,rec.games.chess.computer,rec.games.chess.misc