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Re: SCAM ALERT

#3366
From: Jeff Gossett
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 1997 00:00
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I would like to say that ICC is the finest chess club that I know of.
And has contributed greatly to the promotion of chess, and to the enjoyment
of it's many members.



> From nospam.chessman@voicenet.com Thu Jul 17 16:50:26 1997
> From: nospam.chessman@voicenet.com (nobody)
> Subject: Re: SCAM ALERT
> Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 20:30:25 GMT
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> To: info-gnu-chess@prep.ai.mit.edu
> 
> On 17 Jul 1997 00:18:20 GMT, "Stephen McCoy and Charmiane Barr"
> <mrsmrx@efni.com> wrote:
> 
> .I have been a member of icc since 1994.  I have never found the club
> to be anything but straight forward and honest in it's dealings with
> me.  I can't explain what happened to member below...but like most
> *clubs* ..if you break the rules ,,you're booted.  I can only surmized
> that perhaps that's what happened below.  I have met one of  the
> owners and he  seems  to be a hardworking, honest person...
> 
> "cpatwo".
> 
> >
> >
> >BEWARE
> >
> >	I am writing this letter to warn everybody that the Internet Chess Club
> >(ICC) is a SCAM.
> >
> >	The ICC gives you a free membership trail offer and then charges you
> >$49.50 for a one year membership.  The ICC will then get you to 'agree' to
> >a rules package.  In this package you will read that one of the terms is
> >that the ICC reserves the right to ban paid members without an appeal since
> >the ICC decision is final.  This means that you pay them and if you anger
> >the Administrators (overoverseers) they will ban you and keep your money. 
> >This is part of the SCAM.
> >
> >	Another part of the SCAM is that they will never refund your money or 
> >answer your questions with direct answers.  If you mail or e-mail them the
> >response will be short and vague.  This is because the say they do not have
> >to explain their actions to members since they run the ICC as a business
> >not as a service to the public on the Internet.  This untrue since they do
> >not charge and pay taxes in the US.  The ICC will never refund your money
> >is you are not satisfied because this would be difficult for them to do
> >since they do not know which OWNER has your money so they just ignore your
> >refund request.  Thus you lose your money and they say that they can not be
> >punished for their actions.  
> >
> >A Call for Justice(Net Style)
> >
> >	I am calling for justice.  I have recently been scammed and their are
> >probably others of you out there that have been banned also.   If you feel
> >that the ICC is in the wrong and something must be done  to stop the ICC
> >from taking money from people in an illegal manner I request that you help
> >me FLAME the ICC at the following addresses:
> >
> 
> >
> >-- 
> >Stephen McCoy
> >"Quiet"
> >mrsmrx@efni.com
> >Wise men are those not afriad of learning new 
> >aspects as time goes on
> >
> 
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Date: 1997/07/18
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