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Re: ---------SCAM WARNING--------

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From: Vance L. Ray
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 00:00
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Heck, why even consider ICC?  Play chess for free at fics.onenet.net 5000
instead.  It is the worlds largest FREE Internet Chess Server after all.



Stephen McCoy and Charmiane Barr <mrsmrx@efni.com> wrote in article
<01bc8e3d$efde3e00$b8933dcf@charmaine>...
BEWARE

	I am writing this letter to warn everybody that the Internet Chess Club
(ICC) is a SCAM.

	The ICC gives you a free membership trail offer and then charges you
$49.50 for a one year membership.  The ICC will then get you to 'agree' to
a rules package.  In this package you will read that one of the terms is
that the ICC reserves the right to ban paid members without an appeal since
the ICC decision is final.  This means that you pay them and if you anger
the Administrators (overoverseers) they will ban you and keep your money. 
This is part of the SCAM.

	Another part of the SCAM is that they will never refund your money or 
answer your questions with direct answers.  If you mail or e-mail them the
response will be short and vague.  This is because the say they do not have
to explain their actions to members since they run the ICC as a business
not as a service to the public on the Internet.  This untrue since they do
not charge and pay taxes in the US.  The ICC will never refund your money
is you are not satisfied because this would be difficult for them to do
since they do not know which OWNER has your money so they just ignore your
refund request.  Thus you lose your money and they say that they can not be
punished for their actions.  

A Call for Justice(Net Style)

	I am calling for justice.  I have recently been scammed and their are
probably others of you out there that have been banned also.   If you feel
that the ICC is in the wrong and something must be done  to stop the ICC
from taking money from people in an illegal manner I request that you help
me FLAME the ICC at the following addresses:

			Email				icc@chessclub.com
			Mailing Address		Internet Chess Club
							840 College St.
							Pittsburgh, PA 15232  USA

	Here is some of the fraud that the ICC is pulling and I quote from a form
letter that I received via email.

Notes:
- All memberships provide unlimited login time, games, tournaments, etc.!
- CREDIT CARDS:  Visa, Mastercard, American Express.  You may use a
friend's
     card.  Info required:  Card number, name on card, card expiration
date,
     amount of charge, billing address, phone number, and your ICC name.
- We accept postal money orders in US dollars.
- We accept personal checks from US banks, in US dollars.
- CANADIAN personal checks are accepted.  Rates are $45, $70, $127, and
$35.
- We are required to add a 7% sales tax to residents of PENNSYLVANIA.
- Free Memberships:
   - Grandmasters and International Masters who make their name public on
ICC.
   - Automated computer programs (see "help computers")
- Get 2 free months for each new member you sign up.  Read "help
FreeMonths".
- By joining ICC, you are agreeing to the terms of the user agreement, as
     described in "help agreement".
- You can register for a 7-day free trial.  "help reg" explains how.
- You are welcome to buy additional accounts for using a computer program,
     playing bughouse, for a friend, etc., with the same email address.
- Western Union may be used but ONLY if you arrange to have it delivered
     directly to ICC's office.  ICC cannot pick up the money, and we
     cannot make phone calls to trace it.
- ICC does not accept wire transfers directly to its bank account.

See also: absent, agreement, discount, extend, FreeMonths, package, refund,
          register, value



-- 
Stephen McCoy
"Silent Thunder"
mrsmrx@efni.com
Wise men are those not afriad of learning new 
aspects as time goes on

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Subject: Re: ---------SCAM WARNING--------
Date: 1997/07/21
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