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Re: ---------SCAM WARNING--------

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From: Al Bundy
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 1997 00:00
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In article <01bc8e3d$efde3e00$b8933dcf@charmaine>, mrsmrx@efni.com 
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> BEWARE
> 
> 	I am writing this letter to warn everybody that the Internet Chess Club
> (ICC) is a SCAM.
> 
> 	The ICC gives you a free membership trail offer and then charges you
> $49.50 for a one year membership.  The ICC will then get you to 'agree' to
> a rules package.  In this package you will read that one of the terms is
> that the ICC reserves the right to ban paid members without an appeal since
> the ICC decision is final.  This means that you pay them and if you anger
> the Administrators (overoverseers) they will ban you and keep your money. 
> This is part of the SCAM.
> 
> 	Another part of the SCAM is that they will never refund your money or 
> answer your questions with direct answers.  If you mail or e-mail them the
> response will be short and vague.  This is because the say they do not have
> to explain their actions to members since they run the ICC as a business
> not as a service to the public on the Internet.  This untrue since they do
> not charge and pay taxes in the US.  The ICC will never refund your money
> is you are not satisfied because this would be difficult for them to do
> since they do not know which OWNER has your money so they just ignore your
> refund request.  Thus you lose your money and they say that they can not be
> punished for their actions.  
> 
> A Call for Justice(Net Style)
> 
> 	I am calling for justice.  I have recently been scammed and their are
> probably others of you out there that have been banned also.   If you feel
> that the ICC is in the wrong and something must be done  to stop the ICC
> from taking money from people in an illegal manner I request that you help
> me FLAME the ICC at the following addresses:
> 
> 			Email				icc@chessclub.com
> 			Mailing Address		Internet Chess Club
> 							840 College St.
> 							Pittsburgh, PA 15232  USA
> 
> 	Here is some of the fraud that the ICC is pulling and I quote from a form
> letter that I received via email.
> 
> Notes:
> - All memberships provide unlimited login time, games, tournaments, etc.!
> - CREDIT CARDS:  Visa, Mastercard, American Express.  You may use a
> friend's

The admin. arcsin . just assigned me an arbitrary bullet rating so I am 
requesting a refund. I agree, the behavior of admins leaves much to be 
desired. The lag is unbelievable at times even though ping times to their 
site is normally in the 200-300 ms range, which implies their equipment 
is not up to the task. Their ratings in general are a joke, so why pay 
money to the Internet Chess Club. One last point, when I joined they 
tried to make my free week part of the first year's time slot.
-- 
Al Bundy
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From: abundy@later.com (Al Bundy)
Subject: Re: ---------SCAM WARNING--------
Date: 1997/07/12
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