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Article #6004Re: What does a USCF rating indicate ? (Was: Re: Rating for gnuchess)
From: Laird J. Heal
Date: Sat, 12 Jan 1991 04:26
Date: Sat, 12 Jan 1991 04:26
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In article <8692@star.cs.vu.nl> henk@cs.vu.nl (Henk Smit) writes: >etxtomp@eos.ericsson.se (Tommy Petersson) writes: >>In article <9012110556.AA11184@mole.ai.mit.edu> cracraft@AI.MIT.EDU (Stuart Cracraft) writes: >>>On a SUN **4/50** GNU Chess defeated a CRA-rated program >>>of USCF 2265. The real rating for that one was probably 2220. >>> <.....> > Could someone explain to me how the USCF ratings relate to the ELO ratings ? > I understand ELO ratings, and have an idea which strength they indicate, but > something like 2265 USCF-points (or 10, or 1,000,000) means nothing to me. It has been a while (like almost 20 years) so I could be wrong, although the last time I remember the USCF tried ELO ratings before returning to the old formulas. I am not going to dig through my old Chess Life and Review books or attempt to find my Tournament Director stuff containing the explanation, because it might have changed, and what I have to say is much more general. First, the "real rating" vs. "CRA-rated" has to do with ratings of computer chess programs, which manufacturers naturally want to state to the highest extent consistent with observable phenomena. I have this bridge I can sell you, cheap... Second, ELO ratings stem from the work of Professor Arpad Elo and predate the use of computers to calculate things easily. He derived a set of point differentials based upon a linear numerical rating of observed chess playing strength. While I never inspected the mathematics of his work, it is copacetic that the difference in ratings should be the most significant factor in deciding what the new rating should be, based on the result. I do remember that his table approximates a standard deviation and reaches a zero-expected-result at about 700 or 750 points. The USCF rating is a linear approximation of the ELO system, which made it possible to compute ratings in the days when a 1K table would have to be looked up by hand every time. Technology sure has marched: when was the last time you saw a slide rule, much less used or bought one? The USCF rating is generally consistent with the Elo rating within the limits of linear approximation. The expected-zero-result is truncated at 350 points. When players of similar strength compete (as in the popular class tournaments) any difference is probably one of perception. There was an odd rating system used in USCF postal chess but I believe it was made consistent with USCF ratings a few years ago. Laird Heal laird@chinet.chi.il.us -- Laird J. Heal The Usenet is dead! Here: laird@chinet.chi.il.us Long Live the Usenet!
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f936d,7e6e044218b103f5,start X-Google-Attributes: gidf936d,public X-Google-Thread: 10d71d,bd310814dd86d4ab X-Google-Attributes: gid10d71d,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1991-01-11 00:31:03 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!gmdzi!unido!mcsun!uunet!midway!gargoyle!chinet!laird From: laird@chinet.chi.il.us (Laird J. Heal) Newsgroups: gnu.chess,rec.games.chess Subject: Re: What does a USCF rating indicate ? (Was: Re: Rating for gnuchess) Message-ID: <1991Jan12.042617.4984@chinet.chi.il.us> Date: 12 Jan 91 04:26:17 GMT References: <9012110556.AA11184@mole.ai.mit.edu> <1991Jan8.155626.18203@ericsson.se> <8692@star.cs.vu.nl> Distribution: gnu Organization: Chinet - Public Access UNIX Lines: 49