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3 total messages Started by Paul Vaughan Thu, 21 Mar 1991 03:00
gnuchessr/xboard problem
#6039
Author: Paul Vaughan
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1991 03:00
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Here is an actual game played with gnuchessr under xboard on a Sun4
server in which gnuchess tries to make a perfectly legitimate move,
but xboard deems it as illegal. The list below is the save file from
xboard. Note that it keeps going long after the actual last move
played. Nothing strange had happened in the game so far. No moves had
been taken back, no xboard commands (other than moves) had been given.
The time control was 5/60 and both sides had time remaining. The
ending position is highly tactical with essentially even material,
following a queen sacrifice about to be regained by queening a pawn.
Black's queen-side castling position has been routed and black's king
is in the center and on the run. I was really looking forward to
playing this one, but I knew it would foul up when I queened the pawn
anyway. I wasn't expecting it to foul up BEFORE I queened the pawn.
Very frustrating.

xboard game file -- Wed Mar 20 20:40:56 1991
	vaughan@sunspot vs. ../gnuchessr@localhost
	algebraic
1. e2e4 e7e5
2. f2f4 e5f4
3. g1f3 d7d6
4. d2d4 d8f6
5. f1d3 c8g4
6. c2c3 b8c6
7. e1g1 e8c8
8. a2a4 g8e7
9. a4a5 a7a6
10. b2b4 d8e8
11. d1a4 g4d7
12. b4b5 c6d8
13. b5a6 d7a4
14. a6a7 c8d7   

black's king move appeared briefly, but was put back and the message
"illegal move" showed up. This came with 2:37 left for white, and over
3 minuts left for black. The following moves were never made and
appear to be just random data--they're mostly illegal. After the
illegal move message showed up, black's clock continued to tick away
indefinitely.

	
15. f3h5 e8d8
16. e5f4 c5d6
17. f4d6 c7d6
18. b1a3 b6b2
19. a3b5 g8e7
20. b5d6 h8g8
21. h5f3 b8c6
22. a1b1 b2a2
23. f1d1 b7b6
24. b1b2 a2e6
25. b2d2 d8c7
26. d6b5 c7b8
27. d2d6 e6b3
28. b5d4 c6d4
29. d6d4 g8c8
30. f3f6 e7g6
31. d4d8 b3c4
32. h2h3 c4c5
33. d8c8 c5c8
34. d1d8 b8b7
35. d8c8 a8c8
36. h3h4 c8c6
37. f6g7 c6c7
38. g7h6 a7a5
39. h4h5 g6e5
40. h6e3 e5c4
41. e3e4 b7a6
42. g2g4 a5a4
43. g4g5 a4a3
44. e4a8 a6b5
45. g5g6 h7g6
46. h5g6 c7c5
47. g6g7 c4b2


 Paul Vaughan, MCC CAD Program | ARPA: vaughan@mcc.com | Phone: [512] 338-3639
 Box 200195, Austin, TX 78720  | UUCP: ...!cs.utexas.edu!milano!cadillac!vaughan
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Re: gnuchessr/xboard problem
#6040
Author: Jeff Boyd
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1991 14:56
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We've had similar problems running through ChessTool. There have been so many
illegal moves (eg. R's moving like B's, Q's jumping pieces) that I just call
up gnuchessr by itself and play the game in my head :-).
Re: gnuchessr/xboard problem
#6043
Author: Paul Vaughan
Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1991 19:37
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	We've had similar problems running through ChessTool. There have been so many
	illegal moves (eg. R's moving like B's, Q's jumping pieces) that I just call
	up gnuchessr by itself and play the game in my head :-).

I'd definitely recommend getting xboard then. I used to use XChess,
but find xboard much better. I couldn't queen pawns in XChess either,
and nearly everytime I took back a move, it would fail. The one thing
I miss is that I had hacked XChess so that I could save and restore
games properly but that doesn't work with xboard (and I haven't found
out why yet.)

Here's one tip that's useful with xboard. It occasionally refuses to
recognize a move (doesn't even say illegal move). When that happens,
if I hit pause twice, I can usually go ahead and make the move.

I've played a lot of games with xboard and it's usually satisfactory.
It's pretty rare that I get into a position of queening a pawn where
the game outcome isn't obvious. Most of the time that it fouls up like
how I posted, gnuchessr's game is essentially lost. This is one of the
few times where it did this in a game that was undecided. It does it
pretty frequently when there's a mate in two or something.

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 Paul Vaughan, MCC CAD Program | ARPA: vaughan@mcc.com | Phone: [512] 338-3639
 Box 200195, Austin, TX 78720  | UUCP: ...!cs.utexas.edu!milano!cadillac!vaughan
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