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In GNU Emacs 19.25.2 of Fri May 27 1994 on zeta (sparc-sun-solaris2)

the interaction of window geometry, menu-bar-mode and the choice of
toolkit is very bizzare:

only when building emacs with a toolkit (LUCID in this case),
M-x menu-bar-mode causes the window size to change.  this is arguably
reasonable behavior, but it is inconsistent with emacs built without a
toolkit.  what is worse is that i turn off men-bar-mode in my .emacs
which results in a "flicker" when emacs starts up -- first the menu
bar is drawn, but when my .emacs is run, it redraws the window without
the menu bar and changes the size of the window.  now, i set my window
position to +0-0 to keep it in the lower right corner, but it does not
stay there after the window has been resized due to the menu bar
disappearing.

on the other hand, without a toolkit, you don't really get the
requested number of lines on the window because the menu bar counts as
one.

is there any way to make the behavior consistent?

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