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From: sk@thp.uni-koeln.de (Sebastian Kremer)
Subject: New Dired (was: Re: dired file rename suggestion)
In-Reply-To: maechler@FLASH.BELLCORE.COM's message of 21 Jan 91 23:07:08 GMT
Message-ID: <SK.91Jan23213440@sun0.thp.uni-koeln.de>
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Organization: Institute of Theoretical Physics, University of Cologne, F. R.
	Germany
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Date: 23 Jan 91 21:34:40

>>> On 21 Jan 91 23:07:08 GMT, maechler@FLASH.BELLCORE.COM (Martin
>>> Maechler) said: 

Martin> From reading this (and other gnu.emacs  newsgroups), I got the
Martin> impression that many people would like improvement to 'dired'. And I
Martin> remember several examples where someone wrote  emacs-lisp code to do
Martin> improvements.

Martin> I would like to know if there is an "official FSF" view on the future
Martin> of dired; more specifically:

Martin> Will Emacs version 19 have an imnproved  'dired',  and what
Martin> enhancements are planned to be included ?

Martin> An answer to this would make people think of more productive things
Martin> than re-inventing things that are already under way.

I'm currently running a beta test of a greatly enhanced version of
dired the copyright of which I have already given to the FSF.
Probably RMS will install it in Emacs 19.  But it also works with
Emacs 18.

I had posted a call for volunteers (on Nov 25 1990) to help-gnu-emacs
aka gnu.emacs.help, so you could have known that something's going
on with dired...

Features are: marking of files for later commands (nearly all dired
commands work on lists of marked files), shell commands on files, tree
dired (ls -lR output and insertion of subdirectories in situ), diffing
files, marking and renaming by regexp, sorting on name or date,
copy/move into directories, spaces in filenames allowed, and many
little enhancements/fixes.  It also works much better with ange-ftp.

I have been watching articles on dired in emacs-related newsgroups and
think the new dired has most of the features currently being
discussed and all bugs fixed that were mentioned (plus new bugs of its
own ;-).

Dired is available for anonymous ftp on

  ftp.cs.buffalo.edu[128.205.34.106]:pub/Emacs/

  	dired.shar		Required (100k)
	dired-extra.shar	Optional extra features (20k)
	dired-ange.shar		Optional ange-ftp support (70k)

Extra dired features include minibuffer history for dired shell
commands, VM or RMAIL on folder, and dynamic marker characters.

ange-ftp is an Emacs lisp package that makes Emacs work with remote
files using ftp.  It uses a filename syntax like rcp:
/user@host:/absolute/path or /user@host:relative/to/your/home/dir.
It is included in dired-ange.shar.

Please don't send me mail that you want to beta test - I have enough
beta testers.  However, bug reports and comments are always
welcome.  Be sure to include the version number when reporting bugs.
Better still, wait for Dired 5.x to appear on buffalo at the end of
this month, and see if the bug persists.  Version 5 is much better
than the version on buffalo (4.53).

VMS support is rudimentary, as I don't understand VMS.  For a VMS
expert who also knows something about Emacs Lisp it should not be too
hard to make it really work.  If you are interested, contact me
(sk@thp.uni-koeln.de).
--

Sebastian Kremer <sk@thp.Uni-Koeln.DE>
Institute of Theoretical Physics, University of Cologne, F. R. of Germany