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From: k p c
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 03:14
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 03:14
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in hopes of clearing things up... this is my understanding of what versions are available and the status of each. please make corrections if you know any. i've sent this to masanobu umeda already. gnus in general masanobu umeda thought by many to be the best of the 3 emacs newsreaders gnews, rnews, and gnus. data structures and ui are a mixture. bad things: some behavior depends on summary buffer contents, while other behavior depends on lists; some marks and their behavior are hardcoded; the summary lines can't be changed too much; and the summary and article keymaps are different. the "u" key has nice semantics but not those of most emacs packages, so in my version i rebind it to "'" and assign unmarking to "u". can be made faster. works with nntp and spools. more or less compatible with vm, mh-e, and rmail. customizable and friendly. medium effort required to set up initially but easy to debug afterwards. no virtual newsgroups at present, but two topics packages have been written (one for hierarchy, one for arbitrary topics; i don't use them since i'd prefer simple (superset) virtual newsgroups). 3.14.1 current masanobu umeda works. released. basis for most other versions, including 3.14.3. minor bugs include windows after mailing and default distribution. many bugs fixed by posted contributions. new features written for it include sortgnus (nice newsgroup sorter by frequency), gnus-user-tale, gnus-speedups, joe wells' patches, gnus-mark, gnus-hide, and other things. 3.14.3 beta. masanobu umeda available in japan. works. compatible with 3.14.1 version (almost no hacking is necessary to get it to work with 3.14.1 code, even data structure dependent code). just released. will be basis for v19 (gnu emacs version 19) version. author says not to put it on non japanese ftp sites since it's not ready yet. speed and other improvements over 3.14.1. does not include most contributed code but seems to work with that code. gnus2 v0.33 alpha? scott ballantyne only available to hackers. requires nov and other c code. author says it's much faster than 3.14.1. works with news overview database. comes with a disclaimer that says that it's deliberately not made "plug and go". i wasn't able to get it to work in a reasonable amount of time but some people apparently use it. (including eff people?). mostly incompatible with 3.14.1, eff, 3.14.3, and most packages. best for unix, c, and elisp hackers who don't mind incompatible, possibly shaky code. author seems to be most interested in speed. no release date known. although the promise of speed is alluring, i've decided not to use this version. other versions of gnus are being worked on for speed too, and they are more standard. 3.1?.? available in v19? masanobu umeda gnu emacs version 19 version. based on 3.14.3. nomenclature changes. release date known? speed changes? works? eff available at eff ??? 3.14.1 with joe wells' hacks and most of the packages written for 3.14.1. works. basically a replacement for 3.14.1 and some of the contributed hacks many people have collected. gnus-kpc unavailable me since 1986 i have been working (usually only in rare spare moments) on ideas for a newsreader interface that incorporates machine learning and some other ui ideas. a couple of these ideas are implemented on top of gnus 3.14.3 + eff + packages. it's not available, unfortunately, but i hope it will be sometime. works. few known bugs. few users and hence idiosyncratic. could use speed. just wanted to let other ui/ai people know of its existence. i'm not doing anything that requires data structure or gnus source changes (hence i'm not doing virtual newsgroups). (some of the above is my opinion. some of it might be incorrect. there are no warranties or guarantees of any type whatsoever. it is void where prohibited. you use it entirely at your own risk.) -- i'm open to comparing research career notes with other cogsci/cogneuro people.
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Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.gnus Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!cs.utexas.edu!sun-barr!ames!kronos.arc.nasa.gov!pluto.arc.nasa.gov!kpc From: kpc@pluto.arc.nasa.gov (k p c) Subject: gnus versions Message-ID: <KPC.93Jan21191417@zog.arc.nasa.gov> Originator: kpc@zog.arc.nasa.gov Sender: usenet@kronos.arc.nasa.gov (Will Edgington, wedgingt@ptolemy.arc.nasa.gov) Nntp-Posting-Host: zog.arc.nasa.gov Reply-To: kpc@ptolemy.arc.nasa.gov Organization: NASA Ames Research Center AI Research and Aero Branches; Sterling. Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 03:14:17 GMT Lines: 93