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>>>>> In article <ByMDyB.66q@cs.psu.edu>, sibley@math.psu.edu (David
>>>>> Sibley) writes:

    > We have supercite installed here.  The Info file gives 4 (count
    > 'em 4) ways to hook supercite into gnus.  None of them will do
    > the above.  Indeed, none of them will invoke supercite at all
    > when I use the sequence 'f' in gnus followed by 'C-c C-y' which
    > is specifically recommended in the supercite info file.

    > What kind of a piece of junk is this that does not work at all?

I'll have take exception to this. I *know* that sc2.2, when properly
installed, does indeed work with GNUS 3.14 (and it did work w/ 3.13
and 3.12).  FTR, I use VM 5.32beta, GNUS 3.14, and sc2.2 w/ emacs
18.59 so you can bet that those would be the first (hopefully not
only) environments to work. I usually use non-nested citations, but
you can see that nested citations work just as well.

I think by the "4 (count 'em 4) ways" you refer to above, you think
that these are 4 alternative ways to hook sc into gnus.  Actually
there are a number of steps to get it hooked up, all of which you have
to perform or its not gonna happen.  Why so complicated?  Because gnus
uses distribution elisp which has to be overloaded, and THEN the
normal mechanisms of hooking in can be set up.  Hooking sc up to VM
and MH-E (3.7) don't suffer from the overloading problem -- they
meet the interface specified by sc out of the box.


(setq mail-yank-hooks 'sc-cite-original) ; for all but MH-E
(autoload 'sc-cite-original "sc" "Supercite 2.2" t)
(defun my-sc-overload-hook ()
  (require 'sc-oloads)     ; be sure this file is on your load-path
  (sc-overload-functions))
(setq news-reply-mode-hook 'my-sc-overload-hook) ; for RNEWS,GNEWS,GNUS
(setq mail-setup-hook      'my-sc-overload-hook) ; for RMAIL,PCMAIL,GNUS

You need all this code. Both "GNUS" lines are necessary to get sc
working with both replies and followups.

    > (What are electric headers?  Sounds like something from the
    > 50's.  Or 40's.)  But it's a complete washout on followups.

Electric *references* are a way to preview the reference attribution
that gets inserted and to cycle through the list of header rewrite
functions.

    > You understand, it's not that I actually expect any help with
    > this.  This is my fourth request for help on the gnu system of
    > newsgroups, and so far I've had one (count 'em 1) cryptic and
    > useless response.  I guess no one cares what a mess this emacs
    > system is to get started with.  (Yes, the other 3 requests were
    > MUCH more polite.  Maybe if someone gets mad I'll at least get
    > some kind of response.)

Perhaps your other 3 messages never got off-site? I personally try to
respond to all sc related messages I see if someone doesn't beat me to
it.  If I never responded to your other 3 "polite" requests, its
because it never showed up here.  You could also have sent some email
to the addresses in the sc documentation.

    > Posted via Pnews using vi.  TFM does not correctly explain
    > posting via gnus so I gave up on that.

Whatever. If you still can't get sc to work, drop me a line and I'll
try to help. And I'll just write your sarcasm off as frustration.