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pot@fly.cnuce.cnr.it (Francesco Potorti`) writes:

> In emacs 18.59 info, node Search Changes, one can read:
> 
>    The most important change in incremental search is that RET now
> terminates a search, and ESC does not. [ ... ]
> 
>      (This change is somewhat of an experiment; it might be taken back
>      by the time Emacs 19 is really released.)

So how does one incrementally search for text that includes a newline?
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In article <FRANL.92Dec16131850@draco.centerline.com>
franl@centerline.com (Fran Litterio) writes:

> pot@fly.cnuce.cnr.it (Francesco Potorti`) writes:
> 
> > In emacs 18.59 info, node Search Changes, one can read:
> > 
> >    The most important change in incremental search is that RET now
> > terminates a search, and ESC does not. [ ... ]
> > 
> >      (This change is somewhat of an experiment; it might be taken back
> >      by the time Emacs 19 is really released.)
> 
> So how does one incrementally search for text that includes a newline?

You can type C-q in isearch to quote a character; e.g. in your article
I searched sucesfully for "?^J-" by typing C-s ? C-q C-j.

I have changed the search-exit-char to C-m myself when I heard about
this some time ago and I am very happy with this change. I always
found it really annoying that in isearch an inadvertently typed
function key destroyed my text. This is *especially* annoying when you
haven't even noticed it and the compiler issues strange error messages
about code that you didn't intend to modify.

BTW, what I use *is* Emacs 18.59, I am a little puzzled by the
original poster's statement about finding this in the info of 18.59. I
did *not* find it in 18.59's info, and I believe that this is a
statement of Jamie Zawinski about Lucid Emacs.

--
Juergen Nickelsen

>>>>> "Fran" == Fran Litterio (franl@centerline.com)

Fran> So how does one incrementally search for text that includes a newline?

The same way one searches for a text that includes a ESC now.

/Lars
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In article <FISCHER.92Dec16202935@vagtel.iesd.auc.dk> fischer@iesd.auc.dk (Lars Peter Fischer) writes:
>
>>>>>> "Fran" == Fran Litterio (franl@centerline.com)
>
>Fran> So how does one incrementally search for text that includes a newline?
>
>The same way one searches for a text that includes a ESC now.

I have yet to search for ESC.  I search for newlines all the time.

BTW, would M-< (ESC <) termianate a search?  Now that I think of it,
why not use C-space (set-mark) to terminate a search?  When a search
is terminated, the mark gets set anyway.

-Joel
(joel@wam.umd.edu)

Discussions should be in gnu.emacs.help, not gnu.emacs.sources.

Etiquettely,
Marc

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>>>>> "jn" == Juergen Nickelsen <nickel@cs.tu-berlin.de> writes:

jn> BTW, what I use *is* Emacs 18.59, I am a little puzzled by the
jn> original poster's statement about finding this in the info of 18.59. I
jn> did *not* find it in 18.59's info, and I believe that this is a
jn> statement of Jamie Zawinski about Lucid Emacs.

It *is* in the 18.59 info. In the info files that come with emacs
18.59 there's a chapter called 'Antenews' which contains information
on changes that will be introduced in emacs 19.

Bas.

In article <1992Dec17.042735.18401@wam.umd.edu> joel@wam.umd.edu (Joel M. Hoffman) writes:
> In article <FISCHER.92Dec16202935@vagtel.iesd.auc.dk> fischer@iesd.auc.dk (Lars Peter Fischer) writes:
> >
> >>>>>> "Fran" == Fran Litterio (franl@centerline.com)
> >
> >Fran> So how does one incrementally search for text that includes a newline?
> >
> >The same way one searches for a text that includes a ESC now.
>
> I have yet to search for ESC.  I search for newlines all the time.
>
> BTW, would M-< (ESC <) termianate a search?  Now that I think of it,
> why not use C-space (set-mark) to terminate a search?  When a search
> is terminated, the mark gets set anyway.
>
> -Joel
> (joel@wam.umd.edu)

In the emacs-18.58 I'm using under X window system, miscellaneous
control characters terminate the search, including meta'd characters.
E.g. if I hit Alt-V, the search terminates and scroll-down is executed.
Will this still be possible with the emacs 19 new isearch?

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[Sorry for carrying this on in an inappropriate newsgroup]

In article <1992Dec17.042735.18401@wam.umd.edu> joel@wam.umd.edu (Joel M. Hoffman) writes:

   Now that I think of it, why not use C-space (set-mark) to terminate
   a search?

I set search-exit-char to -1 and search-exit-option to t so that
`random control characters' and nothing else terminate a search.  I
then use C-@ (set-mark) to terminate a search, unless I want to do
some other command instead.

The only thing I can't then do is search for newline by typing RET in
the string -- I have to use C-Q C-J instead, and I find that a minor
pain.

Ray

In article <m0n1xiU-0001CYC@fly.cnuce.cnr.IT> pot@cnuce.cnr.it writes:
>In emacs 18.59 info, node Search Changes, one can read:

>   The most important change in incremental search is that RET now
>terminates a search, and ESC does not. [ ... ]
>
>     (This change is somewhat of an experiment; it might be taken back
>     by the time Emacs 19 is really released.)
>
>Please, don't take it back!

I agree.  I got so fed up with this problem that I changed the key in
my .emacs file.

	(setq search-exit-char ?\^M)

Its far more civilised now.

Paul.

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In article <FRANL.92Dec16131850@draco.centerline.com> franl@centerline.com (Fran Litterio) writes:

>So how does one incrementally search for text that includes a newline?

With C-q.  For example, to search for foo<ret>bar you would type:

C-s f o o C-q C-j b a r

Note that the new line character in Emacs is actually C-j, not C-m.

Paul.
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In article <BAS.92Dec17132755@carlo.phys.uva.nl> bas@phys.uva.nl (Bas de Bakker) writes:

||   >>>>> "jn" == Juergen Nickelsen <nickel@cs.tu-berlin.de> writes:
||
||   jn> BTW, what I use *is* Emacs 18.59, I am a little puzzled by the
||   jn> original poster's statement about finding this in the info of 18.59. I
||   jn> did *not* find it in 18.59's info, and I believe that this is a
||   jn> statement of Jamie Zawinski about Lucid Emacs.
||
||   It *is* in the 18.59 info. In the info files that come with emacs
||   18.59 there's a chapter called 'Antenews' which contains information
||   on changes that will be introduced in emacs 19.
As well as an appendix to the new printed edition of the Emacs-manual
(Sept 1992) available from the FSF!


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