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Re: i don't want those headers in my reply

#9732
From: Jamie Zawinski
Date: Fri, 08 Mar 1991 04:15
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Kyle:
> If you're going to give someone a message, why not give them
> _all_ of it, and let _them_ decide which headers they want and
> don't want?

Personally, I find it extremely annoying when someone forwards a message to me
with fifteen lines of "Received:" headers in it.  This was especially true in
the Bad Old Days (ending last month) when if I wanted to read mail from home,
I had to do it at 1200 baud.  A page full of mail delivery rubbish was exactly
what I didn't need.  I know many people who feel the same way.  Often I know
for a fact that the person to whom I am forwarding a message does not care
about that garbage.

With VM, you can explode the message as a digest and the headers get hidden
from you, but 1: most people don't use mail readers as sophisticated as VM,
and 2: most of the time when someone forwards me a message, I delete it
immediately after reading it.  So re-discovering the keystroke for digest
explosion and then deleting two messages seems silly, so I end up paging
through lots of headers I don't care about.

Have you ever seen how many headers the Andrew delivery system adds to
messages?  Yow.

> Suppose the mail delivery agent on your host autocratically decided that you
> didn't need or want certain headers and stripped them before delivering mail
> to your mailbox.

It's not the same thing because those headers are there for debugging problems
in mail delivery.  Of what possible use are those headers when I am forwarding
a message to someone else?

		-- Jamie
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Subject: Re: i don't want those headers in my reply
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