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   From: jct%se33@se01.wg2.waii.COM (Jim Thompson)

   Which version of Epoch are you comparing here?  My experience with the
   most recent (4.2) has been that it is essentially bug-free--only the
   occasional display glitch and, once in a blue moon, a core dump (but no
   more than plain ol' emacs 18.58).

Started when it was first released.  Started really using it with, I
think, 3.0.  Most recently, 4.2.  As I say, it's useable, but the
glitches are (were) common enough to be a pain.

   I would suggest to the original poster that Epoch is the least painful
   way to gain a more X-friendly Emacs--the upgrade from Emacs 18.58 is a
   novacaine hit.  Lucid, on the other hand was much harder to install and
   run; save the real pain for GNU Emacs 19.  Epoch comfortably fills the
   niche between it and GNU Emacs 18.xx.

The problem here is that RMS has announced* that GNU Emacs 19 won't
have buttons/zones/faces/whatever you call the multiple highlight
support.  That's evidently planned for V20.  Sorry, that's too long
for me to wait (I rather seriously question whether it will come out
this century).  So, for some of us, GNU Emacs 19 just won't be
relevant.  Given that Lucid Emacs 19, and a hope that Lucid will manage
to slurp in more of the good GNU Emacs 19 features are the way to go
for the next _several_ years.  Of course, the Epoch/Lucid merge should
be done long before the end of that period, so the question of which
to use it's as big a deal as it might be.

One other thing I forgot to mention in the first post.  The
performance of Lucid Emacs on large source files with many highlights
(e.g. 5000+ lines, 200+K) is vastly better than Epoch.  Of course,
this is exactly what the new Lucid design was supposed to do.

*This came out in the public arguments (one could use a less polite
term...) between RMS and RPG when Lucid Emacs was released.

                                            dan
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Dan L. Pierson          Digital Equipment Corporation
pierson@crl.dec.com     Massively Parallel Systems Group