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Article #1263Epoch and EMACS merger - formatting vs. highlighting
From: Joseph Arceneaux
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1992 21:07
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1992 21:07
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Date: 24 Jun 92 08:51:32 GMT From: ht@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Henry S. Thompson) Without wanting to comment on the socio-politics of the situation, and with the standard disclaimer about coming late to the debate, I wonder if someone would like to comment on what seems like a strategically questionable technical decision which has emerged from the discussion, namely to go for 1) 'formatting in the files' first, as against 2) 'temporary highlighting' in FSF's Emacs development (i.e. Emacs 19, 20, . . .). This seems both technically (in the sense that if you have (2), you can use that to implement (1), but not vice versa) and strategically (in that you are then in the business of defining and supporting a markup language to encode the formatting) backwards. The idea is that there is a fundamental distinction between buffer text and its properties (e.g., italics), and visual indicators such as highlighting selected text, or the the gdb arrow, or marker glyphs pointing to various buffer positions. The text and its properties are persistent entities which exist after emacs has finished, while overlays such as highlighting are temporary indicators having more to do with editing operations. This distinction is completely separate from the implementation mechanisms, which could be the same.
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fc7ee,13fd30da87d92cc5 X-Google-Attributes: gidfc7ee,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1992-06-24 10:58:34 PST Newsgroups: gnu.epoch.misc Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!cis.ohio-state.edu!lucid.com!jla From: jla@lucid.com (Joseph Arceneaux) Subject: Epoch and EMACS merger - formatting vs. highlighting Message-ID: <9206242107.AA01431@hugo.lucid> Sender: daemon@cis.ohio-state.edu Reply-To: jla@ai.mit.edu Organization: GNUs Not Usenet References: <HT.92Jun24095132@barclay.cogsci.ed.ac.uk> Distribution: gnu Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1992 21:07:23 GMT Lines: 32