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Article #216Re: Bug report - Epoch 4.1 keybindings
From: Brian L. Kahn
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 15:56
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 15:56
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I think that Jamie (jwz@lucid.com) has a good point about the 8bit patch. Converting key combinations to a single 8bit character seems like regression to a less expressive keyboard interpretation. Eight bit fonts are clearly a desirable thing, but why does the input need to be munged? Are we emulating some strange terminals? Emacs has a tradition of interpretting "\ev" and "\M-v" to be identical. I suggest it is time to make this interpretation optional. How about honoring the widely accepted interpretation of EMACS as Escape-Meta-Alt-Control-Shift, and let those of us with Alt and Meta keys use them directly in the key bindings? I believe that lemacs does this easily. I've got enough bindings that I don't need to disrupt the association between meta and escape, but I can see why others might want to. If we bind the Meta key the same as the ESC key by default, then \ev and \M-v still work the same, as expected. If someone wants to use the meta key for inserting 8bit characters, bind meta to a map filled by self-insert-key-8bit and everyone is happy. Yes? No? BTW, it is nice to see Jamie contributing here, even though lemacs is in some sense competitive with epoch. I personally like the lemacs input model very much, and I think it would be good if epoch and emacs-19 go that direction. -- B< Brian Kahn blk@security.mitre.org "may the farce be with you"
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Newsgroups: gnu.epoch.misc Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!cs.utexas.edu!qt.cs.utexas.edu!yale.edu!think.com!linus!linus.mitre.org!news!mbunix!blk From: blk@mitre.org (Brian L. Kahn) Subject: Re: Bug report - Epoch 4.1 keybindings In-Reply-To: Jamie Zawinski's message of Wed, 12 Aug 92 20:44:16 GMT Message-ID: <BLK.92Aug13105651@vanity.mitre.org> Sender: news@linus.mitre.org (News Service) Nntp-Posting-Host: vanity.mitre.org Organization: The MITRE Corp. Bedford, MA References: meissner@osf.ORG <9208112110.AA06450@tiktok.osf.org> <JWZ.92Aug12134411@thalidomide.lucid.com> Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 15:56:51 GMT Lines: 31