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Re: Epoch, DECWindows, OSF/Motif, and the meaning of life...

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From: Alan M. Carroll
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 1991 17:19
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In article <9102161718.AA04983@genome.wi.edu>, joe@GENOME.WI.EDU (Steve Lincoln) writes:
> 
> 1) Is there anyone else out there using this configuration?

Not that I know of.

> 
> 2) Epoch doesn't seem to deal well with Motif's point to type or click to type 
> modes. How do I turn off epoch's auto-raise feature, etc?  Are there any bugs 
> with epoch specifically when used under DECWindows or Motif which I should 
> know about.

You can change the value of auto-raise-screen, or modify the focus
event handler. I am not aware of any Epoch bugs that are specific to
Motif or DECWindows, although there is a bug specific to architectures
that have DATA_SEG_BITS defined, which I discussed here a couple days
ago.

> 
> 4) Customization: Does the minibuffer have to be in a separate window?  How do 
> I set icons, the window's titlebars, etc.

The current implementation of Epoch requires that the minibuffer must
be in a seperate X window. This has issue has been the source of many
a flame war here before, and I have not the strength endure another
one. You might look at the code in anonymous/minibuf.el, which
provides a partial fix.

Epoch provides a number of facilities for changing such attributes.
There are some specialized functions (title, icon-name), and the
general power of (set-property). So, the title can be changed to "bob"
by using either (title "bob") or (set-property "WM_TITLE" "bob").

> 
> 5) Has anyone considered or tried adding scrollbars or pulldown menus to 
> epoch, e.g. to help make epoch a very friendly editor for Unix-phobes.  

Yes, we've considered it, and we have no plans at current for
implementing such features. Several Epoch users have written packages
that support (somewhat) some of these features (in particular
kinstrey@crd.ge.com, whose package uses only Epoch features).

-- 
Alan M. Carroll                "I hate shopping with the reality-impaired"
Epoch Development Team                 - Susan
CS Grad / U of Ill @ Urbana    ...{ucbvax,pur-ee,convex}!cs.uiuc.edu!carroll
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From: carroll@cs.uiuc.edu (Alan M. Carroll)
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Subject: Re: Epoch, DECWindows, OSF/Motif, and the meaning of life...
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