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Re: I'm still here

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From: Kevin Davidson
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 08:36
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>>>>> In article <2ok1qb$nsq@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>, Jim.Rees@umich.edu writes:
Jim> I won't be moving to lucid, because they made the unfortunate choice of
Jim> switching from C to a different source language.  I've tried emacs 19 but
Jim> haven't switched to it yet, partly because I haven't been able to build it
Jim> for all the machines I use, but partly because of this list of gripes.

  I have successfully switched from Epoch 4.2 to FSF Emacs 19. My answers
below are for Emacs 19.19, maybe some things have broken in newer versions...
I don't understand your problem with Lucid, though. I don't use it because
it can't work on an ordinary terminal when I'm away from my office
and I'm sick of maintaining two or three versions of my elisp.

Jim> cursor warps (and focus shifts) to Completions window, have to
Jim> manually move it back to the minibuf each time.

  True. The search-completions package is probably what you want 
(though I can't get the new versions to work for me anymore).

Jim> get a new Completions frame each time (investigate frame-pop package?)

  You'll get tired of this :-) 

Jim> Completions frame says "Click mouse-2 on a completion to select it," but
Jim> that's a lie.  Mouse 2 pastes like anywhere else.

  Untrue. Mouse 2 selects a completion.

Jim> how to suppress initial *scratch* frame?

  Try this:

	    (setq initial-frame-alist
		  '((height . 24) (width . 80) (minibuffer . nil)
		    (left . 495) (top . 156)))
	    (setq minibuffer-frame-alist
		  '((height . 2) (name . "minibuf") (width . 80)
		    (top . 116) (left . 495) (auto-raise . t)))
	    (setq default-frame-alist
		  '((menu-bar-lines . 1) (minibuffer . nil)))

Jim> minibuf autoraise doesn't work (wm bug?)

  Works for me with olvwm 3.3.

Jim> how to control minibuf geometry depending on display size?

  I haven't got around to this - I just move the windows when I
use a different sized display. You could use x-display-pixel-width
and x-display-pixel-height.

Jim> cursor is opaque sometimes

  That means that frame has the focus... :-) What do you really mean ?

Jim> better frame placement would be nice.

  Better, how ? Under olvwm frames are placed along the leading diagonal
like any other new X window - just what I want. If you set any X resources,
maybe they'll always pop up in the same place. How about setting
things in default-frame-alist ?

Jim> dragging mouse 1 shouldn't move point

  You mean you want secondary selections, rather than primaries ? They're
on M-mouse-1, M-mouse-2 etc. I just wish I could work out how to get 
OpenWindows style cut, copy and paste and drag'n'drop working. I do use

	(transient-mark-mode 1)
	(delete-selection-mode 1)

Jim> pasting from X is really strange!  funny delays.

  Untrue.

Jim> running gnuclient yields "cannot switch buffers in minibuf" if there are no
Jim> frames visible.  Or, if there are, it switches buffers in one of the visible
Jim> frames, leaving you with no view of whatever was in that frame before.

  Hmmm. I do get `Cannot switch buffers in a minibuf window', but for
other things (a periodic time-logger <Plod>, called from a wakeup process).

Jim> gnuclient doesn't return until emacs exits.
 
  Untrue. C-x # makes it return as usual.

  Hope this helps you make the switch. I'm glad I did.

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