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4 total messages Started by Kirk S. Anderson Wed, 04 Mar 1992 00:11
Epoch contrib stuff ?
#1578
Author: Kirk S. Anderson
Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1992 00:11
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      I noticed today that Simon Kaplan (cs.uiuc.edu) replied to someone's
posting in comp.emacs hyping Epoch. I've been using it about two months now
and love it. My question has to do with the availability of the two contrib
files for Epoch mentioned.

      1) put your programs in a "highlight-by-comment" mode
      2) put your programs in a "highlight-by-reserved-word" mode

   Any chance there's someone out there who knows where I can lay my hands
on these things ?  I sure would appreciate it.

    Thanks in advance for the assistance.

Kirk
Re: Epoch contrib stuff ?
#1581
Author: Simon Kaplan
Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1992 02:45
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There are 3 important components to doing all of this.

1.  Ken Wood's tek-stuff.  As far as I know, it was posted to the net, but
not ftpable from anywhere.  I will put it on cs.uiuc.edu in the usual
place, and arrange for it to be included in the contrib directories in
future releases.  Unfortunately we missed 4.0b1!!.  This does basic
regexp-based highlighting, and is very general.  We use it in program
files, news, mail, etc, etc.

2.  Martin Boyer's stuff, which interfaces with the "things" package and
does lots of neat mouse-based manipulations.  I believe it also works with
the tek-stuff.  This is already in the contrib.

3.  Marc Andressen's stuff which provides regexp-based highlighting.  I'm
not sure if this extend's the tek-stuff, or is an alternate.  This is
currently available from ftp.ncsa.uiuc.edu (which is another machine here
at Illinois).  

I think that now that we have the 4.0 release essentially stabilized, we
will do some work with the authors of these 3 packages to try to unify
these three packages together into a standard way to do all of this.

I've been using Ken Wood's code for a while, and find it very good.  I've
unfortunately been too busy to try the Boyer extensions or Marc's stuff
yet.  Sigh.

Anyway, enjoy.

cheers
Simon.

and, ps, that isn't a typo.  4.0b1 is now available.  If this isn't the
last beta release before 4.0 proper, its REAL close now.  



--
Simon Kaplan					ConversationBuilder Project
Human-Computer Interaction Lab			
Department of Computer Science			kaplan@cs.uiuc.edu 
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign	uiucdcs!kaplan@uunet.uu.net
1304 W. Springfield Ave				phone: +1 217 244 0392
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Epoch contrib stuff ?
#1582
Author: Marc Andreessen
Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1992 03:43
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   Date: Tue, 3 Mar 92 19:11:15 EST
   From: anderson@julio.sanders.lockheed.com (Kirk S. Anderson)

         I noticed today that Simon Kaplan (cs.uiuc.edu) replied to someone's
   posting in comp.emacs hyping Epoch. I've been using it about two months now
   and love it. My question has to do with the availability of the two contrib
   files for Epoch mentioned.

         1) put your programs in a "highlight-by-comment" mode
         2) put your programs in a "highlight-by-reserved-word" mode

For starters, try anonymous FTP to archive.cis.ohio-state.edu and pick
up /pub/gnu/emacs/elisp-archive/epoch/tek-epoch-stuff-1.1.tar.Z; this
is a general multipurpose highlighting package for source code, the
info documentation browser, etc.  It's a really nice package.

Then, if you're really daring, try anonymous FTP to ftp.ncsa.uiuc.edu
and pick up the files in /outgoing/marca/marc-hilite; this is drop-in
replacement for the tek-src-hilite functions from tek-epoch-stuff that
provides the 'highlight-by-reserved-word' functionality (actually,
lists of regular expressions on a per-mode basis).  It's not very
polished, but I use it all the time and it works for me.

I _believe_ marc-hilite is the only general-purpose source code
highlighter that handles more than just comments; I'd love for someone
to contradict me on this, but so far no one has.

Hope this helps,
Marc

--
Marc Andreessen
Software Tools Group
National Center for Supercomputing Applications
marca@ncsa.uiuc.edu
Re: Epoch contrib stuff ?
#1583
Author: Blair MacIntyre
Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1992 19:58
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>>>>> On Thu, 5 Mar 1992 02:45:22 GMT, kaplan@marula.cs.uiuc.edu (Simon
>>>>> Kaplan) said:

Simon> I think that now that we have the 4.0 release essentially
Simon> stabilized, we will do some work with the authors of these 3
Simon> packages to try to unify these three packages together into a
Simon> standard way to do all of this.

Can I make a suggestion?  After glancing at the code for hilit.el (the
non-tek based one that colours various parts of the code) it would be
nice to be able to specify a bit of context via the regexps, as well as
the regexp for the parts to be highlighted.  For example, it would be
nice (in vm) to take the From line

	From:  bob@hypothetical.com (Bob Bob)

and highlight the name (Bob Bob) without highlighting the rest of the
from line.  

Also, the stuff doesn't see to behave well if it doesn't find a colour
or font ... the text ended up the same colour as the background!
Is that a function of my using Epoch v3.2 instead of v4?

--
Blair MacIntyre, bm@cs.columbia.edu
Professional Student, Department of Computer Science, Columbia University
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