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Started by Peter Colby
Tue, 15 Oct 1991 13:03
Comments on Epoch 4.0a0 - good stuff!!
Author: Peter Colby
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1991 13:03
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1991 13:03
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I have been using the new alpha release of Epoch 4.0 for a few days
now and I have some comments to make. Generally speaking, 4.0 is a distinct
improvement over 3.2 and I intend to keep using it unless something
catastrophic happens.
Highlights
1) This version appears to be as solid as 3.2 - I have yet to experience
a core dump.
2) Epoch 4.0 handles focus-in and focus-out events properly - fixing
one of the major complaints about 3.2!
3) Selections between Epoch and other X clients (esp. xterm) is now
handled properly - fixing the other major complaint re: 3.2.
4) Mouse-based cut and paste (and selection highlighting) is great!
5) Being able to have a mini-buffer in a screen (instead of as a
separate screen) fixes problems using Epoch with tvtwm or other
virtual window managers.
Problems
1) When building and installing (I used the build-install script), it
took me several tries before I could figure out why the temacs
dump process couldn't find any of the epoch-lisp files when it
appeared to be able to find the regular lisp files. I had to fix
the sed command in the build-install script to do a global replace
on paths.h so the second element of the load-path was modified as
well. I believe my final solution (the one that worked) was to
unsetenv my EMACSLOADPATH environment variable so that temacs would
only look in the $BUILD directory - there should be instructions
on how to do this.
2) When running (the newest version of) gdb, Epoch (4.0) seemed to have
trouble maintaining proper concordance between the gdb command buffer
and the => in the current source listing buffer. It would frequently
lose the = part of the => position arrow or lose synchronization
completely for a period of time.
3) There is no indication in the instructions that it is no longer
necessary to load the epoch-lisp files in the .emacs file. This
means that an error in init file occurs when Epoch is first brought
up.
4) Neither server.el nor gnuserv (from the contrib directory) work
with 4.0 - gnuserv is based on 3.2 and the changes in x11fns.c were
too extensive for me to quickly figure out how to fix the patch.
server.el is the original emacs version, not even the epoch 3.2
version.
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Re: Comments on Epoch 4.0a0 - good stuff!!
Author: Simon Kaplan
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1991 03:57
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1991 03:57
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Thanks for the comments. many of the problems you mention with 4.0 are fixed in the first patchlevel release, which will be announced "soon" (please dont ask, we'll let you all know when it is ready. the build problems seem unusual. It works OK for us. some problems were reported because of a .h dependency on a file that has been removed from the distribution, but not failing to find the epoch-lisp files. if you could provide more info (e.g. machine type, OS etc) it would help not having to load the epoch-lisp files has been the case since 3.2, I believe, but perhaps in 3.2 it didnt matter. We should mention that in the docs/installation files. thanks. more generally: please send comments/criticisms to epoch-design@cs.uiuc.edu, rather than the regular epoch list or group, as we are trying to keep traffic about 4.0a off the regular list until it "matures" some more. The epoch-design list is open to anyone who wishes to join, send email to epoch-design-request@cs.uiuc.edu. cheers Simon -- Simon Kaplan ConversationBuilder Project Human-Computer Interaction Lab Department of Computer Science kaplan@cs.uiuc.edu University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign uiucdcs!kaplan@uunet.uu.net 1304 W. Springfield Ave phone: +1 217 244 0392 Urbana Illinois 61801, USA fax: +1 217 333 3501
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