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--> On Fri, 4 Sep 1992 12:29:44 +0200 (MET DST), Frank Ooms
--> <Frank.Ooms@delft.geco.slb.com> said:

  /frank/ When you copy text from i.e. an xterm window into an epoch
  /frank/ window using the X cut and paste, and then close down the
  /frank/ epoch window with (save-buffers-kill-emacs) the other window
  /frank/ gets destroyed as well.
  /frank/ (1) Version of Epoch (see the variable epoch::version).  4.2
  /frank/ (2) Platform and operating system (including version of OS).
  /frank/     SunOS 4.1.2, Openwindows 3., Motif Window Manager 1.1.4
  /frank/ (3) Compiler.
  /frank/     Sun CC 1.1

This comes up from time to time... does anyone seriously want to
contest my opinion that this has to be purely an OpenWindows bug?
It's never reported under any other configuration.

Marc

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Marc Andreessen
Epoch Development Team
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
marca@ncsa.uiuc.edu

Marc Andreessen (marca@ncsa.uiuc.edu) wrote:
: --> On Fri, 4 Sep 1992 12:29:44 +0200 (MET DST), Frank Ooms
: --> <Frank.Ooms@delft.geco.slb.com> said:
: 
:   /frank/ When you copy text from i.e. an xterm window into an epoch
:   /frank/ window using the X cut and paste, and then close down the
:   /frank/ epoch window with (save-buffers-kill-emacs) the other window
:   /frank/ gets destroyed as well.
: 
: This comes up from time to time... does anyone seriously want to
: contest my opinion that this has to be purely an OpenWindows bug?
: It's never reported under any other configuration.
: 

Well, I think I've found it on my system:
Version of Epoch: "Epoch 4.0 Patchlevel 2"

Platform and operating system (via uname -a):
HP-UX bree A.08.07 E 9000/750 2016104081
X Window System, Version 11 HP-UX 8.07 A.04.00 IF2 $Revision: 2.35
HP Visual User Environment Version 2.01      A.01.03
(The documentation says that vue is derived from mwm, version 1.1)

Compiler:
HP92453-01 A.08.79 HP C Compiler


Thus the common denominator may be mwm, not OpenWindows.

BTW, it takes about 10 to 15 minutes for my pasted from windows to
die.

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Doug Sojourner                       Hewlett Packard Company
dsojourner@cdc.hp.com                California Design Center, 53U/84
Telnet: 1-553-3171                   5301 Stevens Creek Blvd
Phone:  (408) 553-3171               Santa Clara, CA  95052-8059

doug@cdc.hp.com (Doug Sojourner) writes:
[In response to complaints about Epoch killing terminal windows...]

   Well, I think I've found it on my system:
   Version of Epoch: "Epoch 4.0 Patchlevel 2"

   Platform and operating system (via uname -a):
   HP-UX bree A.08.07 E 9000/750 2016104081
   X Window System, Version 11 HP-UX 8.07 A.04.00 IF2 $Revision: 2.35
   HP Visual User Environment Version 2.01      A.01.03
   (The documentation says that vue is derived from mwm, version 1.1)

   Compiler:
   HP92453-01 A.08.79 HP C Compiler


   Thus the common denominator may be mwm, not OpenWindows.

   BTW, it takes about 10 to 15 minutes for my pasted from windows to
   die.

[...]

I would like to add to this with a non-bug report:

I *don't* have the disappearing windows problem with a configuration
very similar to Doug's:

uname -a       --> HP-UX dgupta A.08.07 A 9000/720 2007973155
what /usr/bin/X11/X 
     X Window System, Version 11 HP-UX 8.07 A.04.00 IF2 $Revision: 10.7 $
gwm -\?        --> GWM 1.7l  (gwm@mirsa.inria.fr)
what /bin/cc   --> HP92453-01 A.08.71 HP C Compiler
epoch::version --> Epoch 4.2

Apart from the version differences in X and the C compiler, the major
difference is that I use the Generic Window Manager (GWM). Looks like
a mwm<->epoch interaction issue.

Cheers,
Dipankar Gupta
dg@hplb.hpl.hp.com
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One of the people I work with has isolated a set of steps to reproduce this
problem at will.

    If you do the following sequence of actions:

    - start epoch and an hpterm window from your node
    - bring up an epoch buffer, e.g. /tmp/tryIt
    - cut any text from the created hpterm window 
	(using the left mouse button)
    - paste the text into the created epoch buffer
	(using the middle mouse button)
    - type M-x save-buffer-kill-buffer in the epoch buffer
    - wait approximately 15 minutes

    Then the hpterm window you created will disappear.

    This link between epoch and hpterms is not proven, but I have been able
    to make this scenario happen without fail so far. 

While you wait this 15 minutes, you cannot left-button click in an any
other epoch window, as this has the effect of re-initializing the cut buffer.

Steve Fiedler
Hewlett Packard
Waltham, Mass
stevef@hpwall.wal.hp.com