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The group at UoI that delivered Epoch has been busy working on the
lemacs/epoch merge, together with the SunPro group.  Lemacs 19.10 has
almost all the epoch functionality and much more.  The only epoch
feature that I know is not in lemacs 19.10 is the separate minibuffer.
I think that there will be an improved epoch compatibility package in
the 19.11.

- eduardo


| I used to be a faithful epoch user.  I've been away for several months
| and am starting again on the other side of the world.  I subscribed to
| gnu.epoch.misc to see what's been happening.  (Much to my dissappointment,
| the emacs here is only 18.57, and I want to get caught up.)  Is epoch dead?
| Should I use emacs 19?  Which one (lucid or gnu) or have they converged?
| 
| Thanks for bringing me up to date.
| 
| David Starks-Browning
| Rekencentrum, Technische Universiteit Delft

 From: Eduardo Pelegri-Llopart (pelegri@calterra.eng):
: The group at UoI that delivered Epoch has been busy working on the
: lemacs/epoch merge, together with the SunPro group.  Lemacs 19.10 has
: almost all the epoch functionality and much more.  The only epoch
: feature that I know is not in lemacs 19.10 is the separate minibuffer.
: I think that there will be an improved epoch compatibility package in
: the 19.11.


FSF emacs 19 supports this feature (been using it for a while).  I'm just now
building lucid emacs, and I hadn't yet noticed that it didn't have this feature.
That's too bad. :-/

I think that Lucid emacs probably has better X support in most other cases, though...

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In article <PELEGRI.94Jun10100631@calterra.eng> pelegri@calterra.eng (Eduardo Pelegri-Llopart) writes:

   The group at UoI that delivered Epoch has been busy working on the
   lemacs/epoch merge, together with the SunPro group.  Lemacs 19.10 has
   almost all the epoch functionality and much more.  The only epoch
   feature that I know is not in lemacs 19.10 is the separate minibuffer.
   I think that there will be an improved epoch compatibility package in
   the 19.11.

Epoch features which are not in lemacs 19.10 (according to the docs):
 * client messages, send and receive
 * property change events
 * property read/write functions
   - for editor screens 
   - for other x windows
 * pointer query
 * pointer warp
 * access to defaults database
 * query tree
 * reparent screen
 * grab pointer
 * intern-atom
 * resource conversion

Please let me know if I am wrong about any of these, I actually use
them (although I wouldn't need to use grab-pointer in lemacs :-).

Is there some way to get some of the events out of "magic-events"?

-- 
Brian L. Kahn   "In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice.
blk@mitre.org    In practice, of course, there is."

 

> Epoch features which are not in lemacs 19.10 (according to the docs):
>  * client messages, send and receive
>  * property change events
>  * property read/write functions
>    - for editor screens 
>    - for other x windows
>  * query tree
>  * intern-atom
>  * resource conversion

Actually, if you configure lemacs with the --with-epoch flag, the C
side of all of these is in 19.10.  Albeit with different names.
Unfortunately, I wasn't able to get the lisp side done before the
19.10 release.  I hope to complete it in a couple of weeks.  When it
is available I will announce it here and on the alt.lucid-emacs groups
and it will be available for ftp along with the rest of lemacs.


>  * pointer query
>  * pointer warp
>  * access to defaults database
>  * reparent screen
>  * grab pointer

There won't be a reparent screen since lemacs uses a widget structure.
It is possible to compile lemacs such that it can act as a widget
which can then be embedded in other programs.  As for the rest, it
will probalby be sometime in the farther future, probably the 19.12 or
19.13 time frame.


				-Chuck